rascalseven
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I have a client who is experiencing mild ground loop-style hum with a piece of gear I built for him. It is dead quiet in my facility (a Neve-style, class-A circuit) but in his room it outputs a soft hum.
I am tremendously familiar with the quirks of Neve-style class-A circuits with regards to proper grounding for hum and noise performance. Like I say, it is dead stinking quiet in my facility, but in his it produces a soft hum, even with nothing physically connected to the inputs of the unit.
I'm thinking it is the wiring of his facility -- all of the line level I/O of his outboard gear have the audio ground pin lifted at the patch bay with the theory being that this will eliminate all ground loops between connected gear, but I'm not familiar with this practice. I am familiar with the usefulness of lifting a ground at one end of a connection when a ground loop does occur, but as a standard interconnection philosophy to lift all grounds of line level connections at the patchbay?? My studio's patchbay has all ground pins terminated, so when I connect two pieces of gear via a patch cable, their grounds are connected as well. I have no ground loop issues.
My question is this: is his wiring method valid as a standard, across-the-board method for connecting balanced audio gear? If so, I have somehow missed out on this in my career so far. He apparently paid someone a lot of money to wire his studio up, and this was the method the guy recommended and claims lots of folks use. I guess I haven't paid significant attention to such issues (shame on me?), but I just haven't had issues with things connected together, except for the very rare, odd occasion. I would think this isn't standard, given the fact that many pieces of gear don't actually connect audio ground and chassis ground/earth directly. As such, it seems to me that by not connecting ground pins between pieces of gear you have different pieces of gear with different ground potential. Isn't this asking for problems?
I'd love to help him determine the cause of the hum, but really need to know a little more about the approach to wiring that his facility uses, and its potential drawbacks. I apologize for such a lengthy post. Any information you guys could share would be helpful to me.
Thoughts??
Thanks!!
I am tremendously familiar with the quirks of Neve-style class-A circuits with regards to proper grounding for hum and noise performance. Like I say, it is dead stinking quiet in my facility, but in his it produces a soft hum, even with nothing physically connected to the inputs of the unit.
I'm thinking it is the wiring of his facility -- all of the line level I/O of his outboard gear have the audio ground pin lifted at the patch bay with the theory being that this will eliminate all ground loops between connected gear, but I'm not familiar with this practice. I am familiar with the usefulness of lifting a ground at one end of a connection when a ground loop does occur, but as a standard interconnection philosophy to lift all grounds of line level connections at the patchbay?? My studio's patchbay has all ground pins terminated, so when I connect two pieces of gear via a patch cable, their grounds are connected as well. I have no ground loop issues.
My question is this: is his wiring method valid as a standard, across-the-board method for connecting balanced audio gear? If so, I have somehow missed out on this in my career so far. He apparently paid someone a lot of money to wire his studio up, and this was the method the guy recommended and claims lots of folks use. I guess I haven't paid significant attention to such issues (shame on me?), but I just haven't had issues with things connected together, except for the very rare, odd occasion. I would think this isn't standard, given the fact that many pieces of gear don't actually connect audio ground and chassis ground/earth directly. As such, it seems to me that by not connecting ground pins between pieces of gear you have different pieces of gear with different ground potential. Isn't this asking for problems?
I'd love to help him determine the cause of the hum, but really need to know a little more about the approach to wiring that his facility uses, and its potential drawbacks. I apologize for such a lengthy post. Any information you guys could share would be helpful to me.
Thoughts??
Thanks!!