these are strange days for you me and Germany

[silent:arts] said:

Majestic12 said:

I can really start to feel the tension rising up here. I don't feel that save any more going to our big shopping mall or to concerts on the weekend.

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This is the goal of terrorism.

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Sure. It won't stop me from doing anything I want to do since it's still more likely to get injured in a car accident or die from cancer but I can't totally suppress this strange feeling when going outside....

DaveP said:

How does a failed asylum seeker get a bomb?

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The same way like me if I want to.

DaveP said:

Today there was another incident here in Germany, not far from my hometown.
An immigrant blew up himself after not being granted access to a music festival. "Fortunately" there are no reports of people who have died besides himself, "only" injuries.

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How does a failed asylum seeker get a bomb?
As a retired chemist, I know these things are incredibly dangerous and difficult to make.
DaveP

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Ask Timothy McVeigh?

Ask Timothy McVeigh?

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There is a big difference between a fertilizer truck bomb and making something potent enough for a rucksack.  You need accommodation where no-one notices the smell of chemicals and refrigeration in the summer.  So where does a poor? asylum seeker gets the facilities, chemicals and equipment to construct something like that?  He must have had help and contacts.

DaveP

The Internet is full of instructions how to build a bomb.
If you don't want to build one yourself you can order one in the dark-net.
Or some weapons like the Munich guy did.

On top of this you can legally buy powerful fireworks inside the EU (in Poland for example) which is forbidden in Germany.
This is 120g only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4P0vgScWOY

The bomb was homemade. The police found at a house search the needed ingredients. The terrorist followed an IS instruction video and built the explosives in his kitchen. The bomb was based on hydrogen peroxide, said the Bavarian police.

[silent:arts] said:

Majestic12 said:

I can really start to feel the tension rising up here. I don't feel that save any more going to our big shopping mall or to concerts on the weekend.

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This is the goal of terrorism.

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That is one goal, to incite fear and disrupt normal behavior.

JR

PS: I don't want to give ISIS or the terror merchant du jour too much credit. ISIS is suffering set backs on the ground where they live, so are encouraging more spurious lone gun (knife, axe) attacks around the world. It isn't time to take a victory lap for us but this is not a sign of strength for them. 

There will always be disturbed people in the world looking for some sirens call to justify their inner demons.  The current situation is as much a product of modern social media as political policy. Since we are an open society it is hard to stop the flow of information. It would help to clean up all the lawless regions of the world that still remain, to eliminate safe havens for bad actors but that is easier said than done.  Luckily some are still working at it, while it isn't getting high profile press coverage at the moment because of the too short attention span of the news cycle.

The bomb was based on hydrogen peroxide

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That's what I thought, it makes a hell of a stink in hot weather, it was lucky he didn't detonate it in a confined space like the London tube and bus bombs.

Mutter Merkel must be worried.  Her act of compassion in letting in so many refugees is starting to look like a mistake of monumental proportions.

There is something that I have noticed  in life, a bit like Newton's third law.  Whenever something intrinsically good takes place, something evil follows in it's wake, as if some kind of balance must be arrived at.

  For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction,

Merkel lets in refugees, IS infiltrates them.  First world gives aid to third world, corrupt individuals or governments skim it.  Internet spreads universal contact, hackers exploit it.
Still, Wonder Woman is coming next year. ???
DaveP

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Internet spreads universal contact, hackers exploit it.
DaveP

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I have to take issue on this point. A lot depends on your the meaning of the word 'exploit'. Criminals, businesses, banks, pornographers and other commercial enterprises exploit it in a commercial sense. Whistle blowers exploit it in an information dissemination sense. Hackers are mostly a nuisance.

Also, strictly speaking the word 'hackers' is wrong although it has been so misused by the media that it has come to have the same meaning as' crackers' which is the correct word for people who deliberately circumvent  computer security measures to gain access. Hackers are actually software writers who have a binge of code writing. You often hear in open source circles the phrase' hacking the code' meaning writing software.

Cheers

Ian

I meant hackers as a general term for people who write malware, criminal scams, security breaches and who hack into peoples cloud accounts etc etc.

If there is a more appropriate term...................?  I guess my mind is brainwashed by microsoft's ads before every news video.

DaveP

DaveP said:

I meant hackers as a general term for people who write malware, criminal scams, security breaches and who hack into peoples cloud accounts etc etc.

If there is a more appropriate term...................? 

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As Ian says, the more appropriate term is "cracker." Or, more succinctly, "criminal."

-a

DaveP said:

I meant hackers as a general term for people who write malware, criminal scams, security breaches and who hack into peoples cloud accounts etc etc.

If there is a more appropriate term...................?  I guess my mind is brainwashed by microsoft's ads before every news video.

DaveP

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Crackers is I believe the more appropriate term but as you have guessed some big software companies and the press have decided to call them hackers and I guess in everyone's mind that is what they will be. We probably need a new word for cutting code. In the open source software world there are 'Hack Fests' which is where people get together to make serious progress in cutting the code of an application.

I guess it is a bit like safe breaking. To gain illegal access to the contents of a safe you crack it you don't hack it. In the same way, to gain illegal access to the contents of a computer you crack it you don't hack it.

Cheers

Ian

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DaveP said:

Internet spreads universal contact, hackers exploit it.
DaveP

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I have to take issue on this point. A lot depends on your the meaning of the word 'exploit'. Criminals, businesses, banks, pornographers and other commercial enterprises exploit it in a commercial sense. Whistle blowers exploit it in an information dissemination sense. Hackers are mostly a nuisance.

Also, strictly speaking the word 'hackers' is wrong although it has been so misused by the media that it has come to have the same meaning as' crackers' which is the correct word for people who deliberately circumvent  computer security measures to gain access. Hackers are actually software writers who have a binge of code writing. You often hear in open source circles the phrase' hacking the code' meaning writing software.

Cheers

Ian

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When I was a kid, a "hacker" or "hack worker" was a pejorative term describing someone who did crude metal work (using a hack saw) instead of a mill or precision metal cutting tool. This term predates mass availability of computers.

There were also phone system hackers  "phreaking" the phone system by making system signaling tones to place long distance calls for free.

The meaning of hackers today, has little to do with the past meanings.

In the context of managing a website there is a tide of hackers, attacking 24x7 from all around the world, trying to hack into and take control of undefended websites for mischief.  These attacks lack the finesse of a safe cracker, while there is some common ground (guessing/stealing  passwords is like guessing/stealing  combinations).

JR

PS: +1 to criminal,  "cracker" is also a pejorative term describing poor rural whites in the south (who me?)  8)

Majestic12 said:

I can really start to feel the tension rising up here. I don't feel that save any more going to our big shopping mall or to concerts on the weekend.

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A week ago, I mixed a show at NYC's Central Park Summerstage. The security people seemed to be competent and friendly, but were not about to let anyone without a pass backstage. I respect that, and I make sure to thank those guys, because their job is to protect me and my band and crew.

Do I worry about being safe, exposed out at mix position at a big show? No, I don't; once the show starts I worry about what's going down on stage. (And why the trackball on the Avid Profile suddenly stopped working.) I think more of us crew types worry more about a deranged fan taking out Dimebag Darryl or that girl who was shot recently at the autograph booth, than about a terrorist running us all over or blowing us up. I'm also pretty sure that there is a lot of invisible security at high-value targets like the park's stage.

I'm sure I was in more danger just driving up and down the New York State Thruway than I was in the park.

So, no, I'm not going to let fear of some nutjob take all of the fun out of doing big shows, because, honestly, there's nothing more fun than doing a big show.

-a

PS: the bonus was having breakfast at Veselka, which is across the street from my tour manager's apartment.

> When I was a kid, a "hacker" or "hack worker" was a pejorative term describing someone who did crude metal work (using a hack saw) instead of a mill

I would even say: hack wood with a hatchet instead of a proper adze or plane or saw.

I found some interesting hack-work in my attic, apparently temporary erection braces.

Low-tech explosives are not that hard, and there's dozens of manuals, even US Military (for making trouble when stranded in unfriendly territory). FWIW, black powder is totally unregulated(?) in the US, and was THE boom-maker until the end of the 19th century, lots of stuff blown-up.

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,  temporary erection braces.

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I suppose people use Viagra these days.

Cheers

Ian

you have to write many lines of code to hack !!!

like louie armstrong sang:

summertime and hacking is easy, phish are jumping and profit is high

I think we can see the underlying IS plan unfolding.

They are almost surrounded and increasingly desperate in Syria and Iraq and are creating diversionary attacks to overwhelm the security services here in Europe.

France may be forced to arrest and intern all the suspects on its watch list by public pressure.

This will cause outrage as a French Guantanamo and further division in the country;

Just what IS wants.

DaveP

DaveP said:

I think we can see the underlying IS plan unfolding.

They are almost surrounded and increasingly desperate in Syria and Iraq and are creating diversionary attacks to overwhelm the security services here in Europe.

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ISIS just took credit for killing 80 in Afghanistan. They have expanded and gained strength there since 2014 as foreign military fighters have been drawn down.

France may be forced to arrest and intern all the suspects on its watch list by public pressure.

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The mass exodus from the middle east to thousands of km away while not part of a clever plan is opportunistically being used to increase disruption, in western nations.

This will cause outrage as a French Guantanamo and further division in the country;

Just what IS wants.

DaveP

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ISIS wants a caliphate, and for non-believers to be converted, subjugated, or killed.

JR