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Title: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 06, 2010, 10:10:15 AM
Hi All,

It's taken over two months of talking to the lovely people in Monaco (had to learn French first!), I am going to buy my self some Stokli Knobs, now the Red and the Grey are too expensive for me but the black are a more reasonable cost, still expensive but half of what the Red & the Grey are..

they look like this

http://www.tgmixers.co.uk/Website%20Pictures/knobs.html (http://www.tgmixers.co.uk/Website%20Pictures/knobs.html)

If there is interest I will buy more at the same time and sell them here..

The black ones would be around £7.20ea (depending on shipping + fees to me, but I estimate around there..)

no biggie if not but if this some thing you guys would be interested in please state quantities..

Best
Pete






Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: mitsos on September 06, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
nice knobs... I mean... well, you know.

Any idea of quantity discounts?
Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: Soeren_DK on September 06, 2010, 12:17:00 PM
nice ;D

Are the red one really that expensive? It could be nice with some colour variation on my D-AOC

Cheers
Søren
Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 06, 2010, 12:17:13 PM
Hi Mitsos,

Well thats for buying 50 of, I had a quote for 200 as well and drops the price each knob by a whole £1! but i dont think we would make 200...

the red and grey knobs came in at around £15!! so i decided to say with black for me..

Yeah its probably to expensive for most, and me, just thought id check first..

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on September 06, 2010, 02:43:11 PM
Yup, interested. As you might know, I'd be going for 10.
Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: erikb1971 on September 06, 2010, 02:59:31 PM
Hey All

As it happens, I will be in monaco a few days in the beginning of oktober. Been there before and it is not so big, so I could drive up there and collect the stuff and maybe we can pursuade them to get an even better price if I drop by with my well endowed girlfriend? Or if I bring a cake?
Iam not sure if I want those knobs myself, but I have to check with my designer Pete from Grandmaster Audio if i need them for any of my future projects... Anyway, let me know if it makes sense!

Erik


Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 06, 2010, 04:02:08 PM


Hey Erik!

Did i drop the ball on a panel for you?? Gee I seem to remember some thing about a Neve panel? sorry dude, you need to keep on at me!  ;)

Well get in touch if you need to..

Thanks for the offer of dropping into these guys, but i think they have to make them? I'm not sure why it took soooo long to get a quote, but I can only assume they have to have them made or at least get them from else where...So i doubt they have them in stock to pick up..but thanks anyway!  ;D

Pete

Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: erikb1971 on September 06, 2010, 04:12:58 PM
No balls dropped here no worries... Iam just finding more and more projects to do and I have to figure out where to start!
Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: mitsos on September 06, 2010, 04:15:47 PM
I wish I could take bunches...  these are the small time constant knobs on the 660/670 right? If so I might take one. are you getting 1/4" shaft?
Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 06, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
Hi Mitos,

yes I should of said, I've requested 1/4 inch shaft, and they are used on the 670 aren't they...good point..

Best
Pete

Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: mitsos on September 06, 2010, 04:45:50 PM
Yeah, you might get a few more views if you stick fairchild in the topic!! :)
Title: Re: FEELER - Stockli / EMI stle Knobs
Post by: ChrioN on September 06, 2010, 04:53:52 PM
Yeah, you might get a few more views if you stick fairchild in the topic!! :)


I think the word is enough around here  ;D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 06, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
ha! well I added it, if it helps then great,

Lets see what the interest is over the next few days, if its reasonable ill just buy 100, that should be plenty for while for those who need them..

Pete

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Jim50hertz on September 07, 2010, 06:44:53 AM
Pete you frrriiikin rock!  I've been mailing them on and off for about 6 months, without reply!

I need 8 of the stockli pointers  :)

unless....

you can get two of the full flute uns

http://www.iec-monaco.com/classic.htm

in which case I'll take two of those and 6 of the others  ;D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 07, 2010, 09:58:10 AM
Hmm i would be interested, but any way of getting the other colors also? What are their prices actually? Thanks
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 07, 2010, 10:15:09 AM


Hi Jim,

Well I do have an IN there now, so potentialy could get them, all though they cost the earth, buying at quantity makes it a little better but still costs the moon...if you get what im on about...

but do i want to set up a knob shop!  :o cant really afford too I know that, but if there was interest then maybe, but i dont think there is..?? what do those flute knobs fit?

maybe i should get all the knobs there for the 660/670, EMI and others and do a knob shop?? but you are looking at a few thousand of pounds in knobs...

Hi Zayance,

the coloured knobs are exactly double in price, no kidding, just for red and grey, ive thought about getting the black and painting them but one that would look rubbish and two would come off! so thats no good..

If there was a big ineterest, which in not sure there is, maybe i could take the hit, im sure in the long term id make my money back, but then again who wants to pay around the £14 for a single red knob!!

Best
Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on September 07, 2010, 11:27:23 AM
Man, this is expensive!
At this price point, wouldn't it be feasible to manufacture a quantity of these, in every color too?
Even them TG people are looking to buy some...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Jim50hertz on September 07, 2010, 12:55:28 PM

who wants to pay around the £14 for a single red knob!


Careful now Pete, family show and all that ;)

I've seen the flurry ones on plain versions of the tg limiter
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 07, 2010, 02:43:42 PM
Quote
but then again who wants to pay around the £14 for a single red knob!!

Can't believe these prices, sounds like the same story as the Marconi's, but you really think that these are done in Monaco  ??? I feel like it's more China, and huge profit because of Monaco, but they do look nice even the other ones they have, hmmm....
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 08, 2010, 04:54:50 AM
Hi Chaps,

I have thought about the DIY mold path, but as with every thing, its time to invest in how to do it, and its always more complicated than you first thought, but I have no doubt for the money id pay to get these knobs i could darn well work out how to do it.

must be sites on the tinternet that give info on mold making...

mmm...need to think it through before I buy any me thinks..



Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on September 08, 2010, 05:35:18 AM
Hi Chaps,

I have thought about the DIY mold path, but as with every thing, its time to invest in how to do it, and its always more complicated than you first thought, but I have no doubt for the money id pay to get these knobs i could darn well work out how to do it.

must be sites on the tinternet that give info on mold making...

mmm...need to think it through before I buy any me thinks..


I copied a few dozen tabletop wargaming figures (with intricate, sub-milimeter detail) in epoxy resin using silicone (and similar) mold making agents. I'll look through my files, I know there is a specialist web shop in the UK that sells pretty much the best stuff there is to make molds with. Regarding material to cast in the mold, epoxy wouldn't do for most people I think, because it's light and might crack with a lot of usage. Though it is really cheap. I'm sure there are other durable, scratch resistant plastics too. There are tons of tutorials on youtube and the internet in general on how to make molds, how to make two-part molds (probably unnecessary here), how to make air escaping vents and how to pour copies. You could also have a negative created on your or someone else's cnc and cut out the requirement of having a positive first or making molds at all? Just a thought, so that stockli isn't involved at all and no copyrights or patents are infringed upon, fictional or otherwise. If you are handly with something like solidworks, which I think you are?

Cheers,
B.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: erikb1971 on September 08, 2010, 08:17:38 AM
wow.. making your own knobs.. that is hardcore DIY!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 08, 2010, 08:22:46 AM
Quote
wow.. making your own knobs.. that is hardcore DIY!

Yeah could be, but everything is possible when you have the right tools.

Anyway, that is a big decision to make build or buy, and a lot of time and investment, at the end you'll be a knob company  :), but that's what happens in our DIY head when we face some ridiculous prices, but there still have to be enough interest for that....
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 08, 2010, 10:56:47 AM
Yes,

B, I think its THOMS you speak of, I spoke to them today and they were very helpful indeed.

Im going to have a play I think, the brass insert might be tricky, but i think i know here i could get them made as I live next to a machine shop, they might do it.

the chap at THOMS said you could tap the plastic, up to a limited degree of strength, but brass insert with grub would be better...

I'm going to give it some serious thought, because I've also thought id like to make molds for the smaller EMI style Ernest Turner meters...

Pete

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: leadbreath on September 08, 2010, 03:45:57 PM
hey pete,

if u serious about getting these knobs why not get them made in china? if there's no IP issues on these knobs im sure u could get these done and at a fraction of the cost.

mick
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on September 09, 2010, 09:23:05 AM
Adding something really obvious, but still ... when going with casting or custom manufacture, colours should be easily accessible.. some reds & blues... should look stellar!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 09, 2010, 01:34:29 PM


Hi chaps,

Making them is much more fun!

well China is a possible, but dealing with them is not easy from what I can make out.

I have a plethora of ideas,  I need to learn Solidworks or Rhino, maybe i can make a mold from Alu which i can CNC here, or Ill just make a resin mold and cast from that, but i need a real knob to do that, so the other option is i CNC an aluminium master knob from which i make the resin molds from...probably a better idea....any way I dont really know what im doing yet, but im going to try, if I crack the process there would be no end of things that can be made....

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: mitsos on September 09, 2010, 02:43:58 PM
learning new software sucks. Unless you want to wait a year to get this done, it's better to pay someone to model them for you. You'll get much faster/better results. Maybe Skylar would be able to help, or you can look for someone local so you can take part in the process.

Instead of making them in China, you could try a US mfg and still have the currency/exchange advantage.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: grantlack on September 09, 2010, 03:03:09 PM
If I can get nice detailed dimensions I could very likely do the modeling in ProEngineer (solidworks alternative) and output g-code for cnc. The one issue you may see with cnc is some tool marking from stepped passes, a bit of smoothing for a master may be needed after the fact. Hope I can help, this is definitely up my alley!

EDIT: the only foreseeable cnc issues I can see are these-
If the circular portion at the base of the knob has a graded profile, this might be tough to do nicely on cnc without serious tooling marks. The etch in the pointer for paint may also be tough without a very fine bit. You're looking at a fair bit of rounding at the tip otherwise, which would be a candidate for revision by hand.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: wmtunate on September 09, 2010, 03:12:56 PM
You guys know about this thread, right?:

http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=32853.0

Skylar apparently made up a solidworks model already.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: grantlack on September 09, 2010, 03:19:56 PM
You guys know about this thread, right?:

http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=32853.0

Skylar apparently made up a solidworks model already.

Well I guess that saves me some work then!  ;)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 09, 2010, 03:50:54 PM


Hey Chaps, all great info.

Well ive messaged Skylar to see if he still has the files and would allow the usage of them.

But If not grant I'll be intouch! I have a friend also that is very good with google sketch up and that can output STL files too so thats an option..

You are also right about the finishing on the knob, I think some hand finishin by hand would be needed. Al thought with very fine pass and using a rounded bit i believe you can get very a smooth finsih, which we could then sand and buff.

the other option is we make an inverse of the knob out of Aluminium, but in two parts which fit perfectly together, kind of like doing injection molding, but is uspect that might be trickier..much much easier to make resin molds from either a alu or real knob..

Cookin on gas!

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: barclaycon on September 09, 2010, 04:03:12 PM
What absolute nonsense. £15 for a control knob!
Stupid. Ridiculous.
And anyone that pays that for a knob is stupid too.

Not having a go at you Chris - you just want some nice looking control knobs right ?

But charging those kind of prices for what is effectively a little piece of plastic with a brass insert....
they should be ashamed of themselves.

Maybe they got too used to ripping off tourists !
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 09, 2010, 09:22:43 PM


well that was fun, just worked out how to use Rhino3D, its not perfect just yet but not looking too bad for a 1st bash....I've a real one turning up soon so I can take proper measurements as this was just from a picture,

but once its ready I can generate some Gcode from this and CNC a master...

(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/Stockli.jpg)

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on September 10, 2010, 01:45:30 AM
Looking good! :)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 10, 2010, 04:23:16 AM


think i need to optimise my tool paths, CNC says 186 hours! LMAO...that's easy....but any way i was just checking Cut3D could open the Rhino file and it does...

(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/CNCsim.jpg)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: shabtek on September 10, 2010, 06:41:17 AM
is that estimate based on the 'size' at the bottom (23x62x19")
that is a big knob--or will it be geared down?
Title: MOVE TO LAB? : Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 10, 2010, 06:55:47 AM
Yip! I spotted my mistake there too, Ive scaled it down now and its only an hour or so, depending on the finish quality it can go up by a another hour or so, but that's OK.

I've added the skirt now too, the real knob should be turning up tomorrow so i can make to the proper dimensions,

I've nooo idea if this will turn out to be any good, fingers crossed, also we should move this thread into the LAB I think...

(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/CNCsim1.jpg)
Title: Re: MOVE TO LAB? : Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: API on September 10, 2010, 09:25:17 AM
I have unlimted access to a real Fairchild 670 all weekend so I could prop. do some measurments as well if needed.

I know a guy in the Uk that recently that moulded a PYE knob that he was missing.
From what I know he made a plastic cast from a real knob and the moulded it in that, looked amazing.
Not sure what kind of materials he used though but it is possible to do with good results.
Title: Re: MOVE TO LAB? : Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 10, 2010, 10:40:01 AM
Hi Dennis,

that would be great if you could, as I think there are two sizes on the 670, a larger one on the metering and a mini version on the Time Constants, so if its easy a quick measure up would be fab..

I have one good knob coming but I don't think Andy will be too happy with me if I poor resin all over it... ;)

Pete
Title: Re: MOVE TO LAB? : Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 10, 2010, 04:38:35 PM
just a small update, this is what I should be making the model/master from! not aluminum...what a knob!  :D

http://www.trycut.co.uk/ (http://www.trycut.co.uk/)

Title: Re: MOVE TO LAB? : Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: radiance on September 10, 2010, 04:40:38 PM
Some one is selling a box containing 4 of these beloved knobs...scroll down a bit...

http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=35283.0
Title: Re: : Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 11, 2010, 06:11:01 AM
Could some one move this thread to the LAB please? thank you.

I've just knocked up the other small flute knob on the TG limiters..so I've some machinable wax coming, new cutters plus some Silicon / plastic coming...going to give this a serious bash..if for nothing else for fun..

(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/CNC6p.jpg)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sodderboy on September 12, 2010, 08:05:11 AM
I bought hundreds of red and gray(bluish actiually) knobs directly from Chandler for $15 each, no quantity discount.  They had them in stock in both 1/4" and 1/8" shaft.  No black.
I would be interested in about 300 black knobs if they are the correct shape.
Mike 
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 12, 2010, 08:12:56 AM
 :o
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 12, 2010, 08:35:15 AM


Hi Mike, that's interesting indeed, still quite a bit of money, even with the exchange its around £10gbp.

What is even more interesting was my prices were based on 50 - 100 quantity, so hence dear price, they must buy them in the mega ton and I wonder if they even buy stocklis, maybe making them in china..

In the next few weeks I should know whether I'm able to produce any or not, I am planning on making Black/Grey/Red first..

Only slight issue im having is to hunting down the brass inserts with grub screw, it must be a manufactured item already...so I've got to do some phoning this week..

Best
Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MikeClev on September 12, 2010, 09:17:47 AM
Here's a crazy thought I just had (feel free to ignore me!)

If obtaining and fitting/securing the brass inserts is expensive, how about this- design the knob as a 'cap' that slips over the top of a cheap, commonly available knob that can be bought by the thousand. Glue it on, voila!

Crazy or genius?
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 12, 2010, 09:29:21 AM
Hey Mike,

Well any idea is a good Idea, And i see where you coming from, but fixing it to the smaller knob would still need a screw of some type, of course i could tap the plastic and have no brass insert at all, but thats not as good as a brass insert.

There has to be some thing already, its in almost every knob ever made, if you Google brass insert there are loads of very similar things but not quite what im after, so I plan to ring them, i'm hoping they will say ahh you need an XYZ and that will be that.

Cookin!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MikeClev on September 12, 2010, 10:21:59 AM
Hey Mike,

Well any idea is a good Idea, And i see where you coming from, but fixing it to the smaller knob would still need a screw of some type, of course i could tap the plastic and have no brass insert at all, but thats not as good as a brass insert.

Glue it on, old chap! Good old-fashioned superglue. Job done! Anyway I won't push the idea too much, it's just an off-the-cuff idea...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 12, 2010, 10:45:15 AM
Epoxy would be better IMHO beside Superglue, well if you go that route...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: radiance on September 12, 2010, 01:02:40 PM
I have not read the whole thread so sorry if this has been suggested before...
Anyone searched alibaba.com ??
Might be that the factory is linked to that site as well. Only downside when ordering in China is the min. order quantity.
Between 1000 and 5000 pieces or so. Price should be a bargain though, especially when compared to the Monaco dealer.

Another thing: what would it cost to have a mold made in China? Just for 1 knob? Basically you just can ask ANY knob manufacturer on Alibaba.com
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: ed rees on September 12, 2010, 01:29:19 PM
The General Radio decade resistors go for as little as $20 on ebay, I would just get a knob off one of those and pull a mold from it. There's no real need for metal dies or machining. Use silicone for the mold, and cast the knobs from low viscosity casting plastic, to avoid bubbles.

Brass inserts could just be some 1/4" ID thick wall tubing, machine some notches around it for gripping power. You could use a drill press and file as a lathe to do this, or even a dremel cutting tool, doesn't need to be pretty.
 
Cast the insert into the knob, then drill and tap for the grub screw.

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 12, 2010, 02:11:01 PM
Hi Chaps,

Hi Ed, All though in this circumstance there is no real need to machine as I have a real knob here, but I've been looking for a reason to do some 3D machining (other than engraving) with my CNC and here it is.
With machinable wax it's easy, I've got the plastics covered, I've done my home work here so that should be cool.

to Radiance also, If I crack the above process pretty much any thing i can draw in 3D i could potentially make, not just for audio DIY but for my other hobbies too, so im dead excited..

So what exactly is 1/4" ID thick wall tubing? ID?

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: grantlack on September 12, 2010, 02:57:49 PM
So what exactly is 1/4" ID thick wall tubing? ID?

Pete


Inner/interior/insert synonymous I-word at your leisure diameter.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 12, 2010, 03:18:59 PM
gotcha...kinda obvious really!   :D

latest revision up-to-date dimensions..

(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/Stockings.jpg)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sodderboy on September 12, 2010, 04:26:30 PM
I think they are made in China.  Their minimum run for black was 1000, and they still wanted $15 each.

Once you talk about kludging knobs together or cutting tubular stock your manufacturing costs go way up.  In quantity over 1000 a slip-on would be a few pence less than an actual bushing/setscrew knob.

That solidworks knob looks very sharp.  The originals and the Chandler knobs are a bit smoother top to sides.  I finished a TG12345 refurb and the desk out of the shop and in constant use now, but I will try to get a pic of the old and new knobs as reference.

Mike
PS: one other difference is that the originals have two set screws and the new have only one.  One is certainly enough to hold.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 12, 2010, 04:56:34 PM
Hi Mike,

you certainly have a keen eye, I've been trying to get a softer edge on the top to side on the back piece, but i cant seem to get it right as it goes around the corner, I only started learning this 3D stuff the other day, so im working on that bit..but I will try to do it for sure.

Love to see some pics, the new one I have here has one set screw in the center of the back, Ive seen others that come in from the right, this must be what you are talking about with the two set screws.

ah! i've just thought of a way to do the softer edge...weird how your brain works on stuff in the background..

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: grantlack on September 12, 2010, 05:50:19 PM
Doing a 3-piece variant a la Marconi with the clear skirt on these would be kinda rad, but could be tough to pull off with the pointer. I've had an itch to try some led refraction if the right knob comes on the scene, I do my bed work in the dark  ;D

EDIT: BEST, not bed.  but i suppose that works too.   ::)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 13, 2010, 05:10:22 AM
Hey Mike, soft edge revision...I'm using a extra long reach .5mm end mill for finishing, It's looking pretty good...

(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/Stockings1.jpg)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 13, 2010, 05:30:02 AM
Very Nice! I think the soft edges are all around tough, looking at some pics. Anwyay i'm very curious on the progress of this one, keep them coming...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on September 13, 2010, 05:33:00 AM
This is SO impressive.

Im in awe of you engineering guys.

jake
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 13, 2010, 06:17:50 AM
ha! I'm no engineering guy, I just fudge about in the dark until I hit some thing..

 :o
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on September 13, 2010, 06:20:50 AM
hey thats what I do too... wait, are we still talking about DIY   ;)

Anyway, these look sick. If all goes well could you see yourself doing other designs (thinking macoroni).

jake
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 13, 2010, 06:51:20 AM
ha ha..

I can see no reason at all not to do other Marconi styles, in the case of the clear skirt, you would just mold that separately from the top part and bond them together, then you are good to go.

So yes, It's some thing I'm thinking about..

Cookin..

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 13, 2010, 06:54:18 AM
Quote
I can see no reason at all not to do other Marconi styles, in the case of the clear skirt, you would just mold that separately from the top part and bond them together, then you are good to go.

So yes, It's some thing I'm thinking about..

Cookin..

Nice, rock on!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Biasrocks on September 13, 2010, 10:23:03 AM
Those look amazing Pete!  :o

Great work.

Mark
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: grantlack on September 13, 2010, 11:48:51 AM
Ususally the skirts like this just press fit to the underside of the properly
made knob.

truth.  in this case, it's just a matter of getting the mating angle between the skirt and pointer/tail right.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sodderboy on September 20, 2010, 09:02:56 AM
Finally took some pics!  There are more at groupdiy:
New knobs from Chandler for reference
(http://www.twin-x.com/groupdiy/albums/userpics/normal_new_pair_point.JPG)

Original Stockli is rounded all around the top
(http://www.twin-x.com/groupdiy/albums/userpics/normal_old_pair_point.JPG)

Skirt view
(http://www.twin-x.com/groupdiy/albums/userpics/normal_side_profile.JPG)

The Stockli has a more straight skirt, and you should be able to get an angle from the picture.
Mike
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 20, 2010, 01:08:45 PM
Thanks Mike,

Really appreciate that.

I very much prefer the Stockli. Altogether a much better looking knob.

Should have some samples in the next few weeks..fingers crossed it all works that is...

Cheers
Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sodderboy on September 20, 2010, 04:57:23 PM
PM me if you need some more intimate shots.
Of the Stocklis I mean!
Mike
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: zayance on September 20, 2010, 05:09:30 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 20, 2010, 05:33:50 PM
Hi Mike,

here is an up-to-date version I plan to make in the coming weeks, I did this tonight based on your super pics!  ;D

I think it's as far as i can take it, considering I know nothing about 3D modelling I think its come out rather well. Maybe not an exact replica but not far off...also some of the 'rounding of the edges' i will do by hand on the wax positive, so that top edge of the main body will have a smooth roll off to it in the end...buggered if can get Rhino to do it..

Now the moulding? molding? i dont know which! but it begins...
Best
Pete

(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/Stockmetblu.jpg)
(http://www.grandmasteraudio.com/Stockmetblu1.jpg)





Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sodderboy on September 20, 2010, 06:16:29 PM
That looks finished except for the smoothing.
The next hurdle is the same one that the Marconi thread is contemplating- costing local manufacturing.
I can give a Long Island factory a file for bid if you want.
Mike
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: ArnauTS on September 26, 2010, 06:13:57 PM
Really cool! :o i'm totally in for some knobs  :D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on September 26, 2010, 07:31:15 PM
 :o
This would be totally awesome!
These small types seem to be very rare and hardly come up on ebay...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: barclaycon on September 28, 2010, 05:46:33 PM
Just as a matter of interest, did Chandler make their own version of the Stockli knobs ?
Or did they use the expensive Monaco originals.
(I can't imagine them paying the outrageous prices Stockli are quoting!)

I notice that SmallBear (excellent parts supplier) have had custom knobs made - chicken head types mainly.
They mention Davies Moulding and 'Taiwanese clones'. Maybe something along the same lines for the Stockli design might be feasible?
I guess it's a matter of quantity as to whether doing clones like this is worthwhile.

Anyway, keep up the good work.

Actually, I've just had a look on the Davies website. Check out:
http://www.daviesmolding.com/standard-products/plastic-knobs/pointer-control/default.html  
Types 1919 and 2150 don't look too far away!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: evilcat on September 29, 2010, 09:27:49 AM
These Stockli/EMI knobs are some of my favorites knobs ever ! It would be awesome if you made them, totally in !!!!
barclaycon, I have some 2150 from Davies molding. If they are really cool knobs, I don't find them to look like the Stockli, too much chicken-head like. But again, they look really cool and are top quality.

Ben
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on September 29, 2010, 09:48:46 AM
Hey Chaps,

well just an update really seen as you are posting stuff, been mega mega busy with panels, But last week I did manage to make a single knob! it turned out OK, like my very first engraving, OK but not brilliant, so, i've bought a few more things to help, just waiting for them to turn up, when they do i should be good to make "V2", hopefully i can show you this if it comes out as expected..

whether i can make 1000's....well that's another matter entirely!

Pete

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: suli on September 30, 2010, 07:26:39 PM

HI

i'm totally in for some knobs .



















Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: kepeb on October 01, 2010, 11:19:56 AM
hey, didnt see this thread, these are nice knobs too! just looking at the 'porn' marconi knobs and saw the brass inserts dont seem to be available.

you could use a dremel down the middle of a wire terminal block and you have lots of nice premade brass inserts with screws.

what kind of price do you think you would you be looking at if you are planning a small run of these knobs?
especially the clear skirt ones.
ta :)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: barclaycon on December 07, 2010, 03:18:54 PM
Are these original Stockli knobs you are talking about, or replicas that you have done ?
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on December 07, 2010, 03:42:41 PM
Way to go, electrochronic, keep up the good work!
 :D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: ArnauTS on December 07, 2010, 06:30:14 PM
Announcement

I will be offering these knobs in the near future
I'm working with the factory right now on ordering.
They have finally gave in to my price point and quantity
after much negotiations. I will have sample knobs form factory
in about 1 month or so .

Black, bakelite, .250" collet 6.35mm , brass insert and setscrew.

also RCA tube console knobs will be offered, more details to come.

target price around $5 USD each
finally! ;D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: barclaycon on December 07, 2010, 10:47:33 PM
original blueprint

Sorry to labour the point Frank, just want to make sure I understand you correctly.

These are knobs which you've had custom-moulded yourself to the Stockli design ?
i.e. they are not originals from Monaco!

Is that what Chandler did ? (make their own).
I can't imagine them paying the ridiculous prices that the Stockli people are asking.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: alalcoolj on December 08, 2010, 01:59:15 AM
RCA console knobs, as in these??!!?

http://www.leedsradio.com/images-knobs/RCA_consoleknobs.JPG
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: grantlack on December 08, 2010, 02:01:50 AM
Chandler made his own and they are smaller , not original spec. either. I don't know
if his are plastic or bakelite.
iirc the venerable iowan mr. chandler has plastic here.  there's always a bottom line, i suppose.  count me in for a handful, maybe two  ;).  any word on quantity, or are you planning to keep this a one-shot?
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: alalcoolj on December 08, 2010, 02:24:15 AM
Awesome, can't wait
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on December 08, 2010, 02:41:04 AM
Great... I'd be looking for quite a few of these, possibly more than 20. It's a lot to splurge on knobs, but then again, if they look as good as the originals, why not?
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on December 08, 2010, 04:12:42 AM
i would also be interested in come of both type.

good job
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Freddy G on December 08, 2010, 11:29:25 AM
Hey electrochronic,
That's great news...I'll take some knobs for sure. Just curious, what happened to Pete (Grand Master Audio)? Did he give up on this? The reason I ask is because I told him long ago that I'll take some from him and I wouldn't like to go back on my word.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: alalcoolj on December 10, 2010, 02:16:06 AM
Hell yeah, can't wait for the rca's
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on December 10, 2010, 05:43:58 PM
Looking great.. Not that I'm particularly picky, but there's probably no chances of other colours, right?
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: kazper on December 10, 2010, 07:30:12 PM
There is a chance , I like the two colors below.

Pantone 200C  Br. Red
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-QR3lSUC5GEHjo_19EOUtQcOAFc6ITbWWdGpYLF6ZVoXsYuK2LQ)
Pantone 431    Blue Gray
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRM_1YIk-2Yx2ZZdM7eVNd7HdQkeCNB-2YHWXI-mE0ny7Ao-FxM)

any thoughts ?


I like....
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Jim50hertz on December 10, 2010, 08:05:42 PM
I need four black and two each of red and grey if you decide to go with the other colours. Otherwise just black. Thanks for this dude, I've been needing this for a long time  :)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: delaymix on December 10, 2010, 09:54:19 PM
If there was possibility of more colors... orange light, it would be interesting. I would be for 4 red and 18 oranges...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on December 10, 2010, 09:59:23 PM
I say  :D  you should want the knobs in any color, as long as it's black!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on December 11, 2010, 01:42:11 AM
There is a chance , I like the two colors below.

Pantone 200C  Br. Red
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-QR3lSUC5GEHjo_19EOUtQcOAFc6ITbWWdGpYLF6ZVoXsYuK2LQ)
Pantone 431    Blue Gray
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRM_1YIk-2Yx2ZZdM7eVNd7HdQkeCNB-2YHWXI-mE0ny7Ao-FxM)

any thoughts ?

Exactly what I need. If these were available for buying, say, next month, I'd go for 6 red, 4 grey and 6 black.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on December 11, 2010, 05:50:15 AM
I REALLY like the blue grey and red. very very nice
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: evilcat on December 11, 2010, 09:22:15 AM
I REALLY like the blue grey and red. very very nice


+1 !!!!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: ArnauTS on December 11, 2010, 11:48:18 AM
grey,red and black are excellent choices  ;D
i would like to see maybe in purple as it's my favourite colour.. maybe someday :D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on December 11, 2010, 12:58:05 PM

Grey for me! How many can I buy?  ;D

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: rooster21 on December 11, 2010, 02:51:38 PM
Oh yes, I will be buying quite a few of these knobs once they become available.

Great job!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on December 12, 2010, 03:32:57 AM

it too is a sexy panel knob.


Is it also a neat guy?  ;D

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on December 12, 2010, 01:44:56 PM
Besides, electrochronic, I recall you were gonna do pultec knobs at some point? That'd be cool too.
 ::)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on December 12, 2010, 05:51:53 PM
they're really nice too. would also like to see these in the other colours, but as i would only take a handfull im sure its not worth your while.

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on December 12, 2010, 06:16:51 PM
Yeah, well, even though it looks like a classic GR knob, donno how popular it'd be.
On the other hand, everybody and their dog are building pultecs, and those knobs look good on any type of "old school" gear.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on December 13, 2010, 12:52:19 AM
Honestly, and that cheeky pultec wants 5 knobs!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on December 13, 2010, 04:40:47 AM
wow, fantastic! Well it saves me making a whole load, I had actually made a single knob, but I've recently slipped a disc in my back and i'm out of action, so I'm really glad electrochronic has got some being made,

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: evilcat on December 13, 2010, 04:09:25 PM
Those knobs look awesome !!! I'm totally in. Congratulation electrochronic.

Ben
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: evilcat on December 15, 2010, 04:12:45 PM
It seems nice to me...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Peps on December 15, 2010, 06:26:23 PM
My 2 cents: Don't make them bigger...

Peps
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on December 16, 2010, 10:18:17 AM
Def not bigger. Small ones would be cool, but only in addition to standard size.

Thats what i reckon.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on December 16, 2010, 12:39:41 PM
... but only in addition to standard size.

Thats what i reckon.

Me too. Whatever the original size is, I want that, but other sizes could be cute.

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: bobine on December 17, 2010, 04:05:37 AM
Pultec knobs are here:

http://www.daviesmolding.com/standard-products/plastic-knobs/skirted-knob/default.html

scroll down to part no. 4104

Reportedly only $3.00 per 1000!  Or $11 per 100, the minimum. Not in stock, so they need to do a run.  These are the original molds.

 
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: leadbreath on December 24, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
sshhwweeettt
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: dfer on December 24, 2010, 01:27:52 PM
"The Knobsmith"   :D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on December 30, 2010, 06:27:53 AM
any idea if you will be offering the other colours yet?

Cheers
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on January 01, 2011, 10:21:12 AM
ah, fair enough. thanks for the info.

look forward to the updtes as they come in.

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Kid Squid on January 04, 2011, 07:50:20 AM
Electrochronic,

I'm in for a bucket load !!!! ;)

Regards,
Steve
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: kazper on January 04, 2011, 09:25:50 AM


I'll make that 2 bucket loads!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on January 04, 2011, 03:50:05 PM

Not trying to influence your decision, but ...


(http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx53/MagnetoSound/kaa.jpg)

 Musssssssssssssst produce gray, yesssssssssssssss


 ;D
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on January 04, 2011, 03:55:44 PM

Not trying to influence your decision, but ...


(http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx53/MagnetoSound/kaa.jpg)

 Musssssssssssssst produce gray, yesssssssssssssss


 ;D

+1
Title: TG
Post by: electrochronic on January 05, 2011, 03:03:25 AM
.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on January 05, 2011, 03:25:23 AM
Argh, no Facebook account here (and I wouldn't want to start one now, after all the years of abstinence). Could we facebookless people e-mail you instead, and you'd add us up manually? EDIT: also, I've stated my quantity/colour before, here it is copy-pasted:

Quote
I'd go for 6 red, 4 grey and 6 black

The 6 red could be grey instead if that helps.

Cheers,
B.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: mata_haze on January 05, 2011, 04:20:07 AM
What is the price range?

Mattia.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on January 05, 2011, 06:03:47 AM

Kaa the snake doesn't do facebook either, but can commit to, say, a dozen in grey.

Probably come back for more if they turn out really good. I can see these flying.

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on January 05, 2011, 07:15:57 AM
no facebook for me either. I'll email you.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: lsskmki on January 05, 2011, 02:32:50 PM
No fb here either...
Interested in all colors  ;D So, probably in for roughly five of each.
I'll think about more exact numbers later.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on January 05, 2011, 04:59:52 PM
C'mon people, take it easy!
Electrochronic is doing us all a great service, we wouldn't want him to sit on a few thousands of knobs unable to sell them!
Let's see the black knobs first...
 ;)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on January 05, 2011, 05:03:37 PM
Would like to get an idea of demand for these
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on January 05, 2011, 05:21:29 PM
I've thought it logical, but I'm stating it anyway: Should either or all non-black knobs not be possible, I'll be perfectly happy to get the black ones instead. I've been also thinking of putting a few on my other work, so I'll double it up: 12 red/8 grey/12 black.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sine_wave on January 21, 2011, 08:01:15 PM
This is great Electrochronic! I'd gladly take approx. 10 of each color for the TG style knob. Can't wait to see these.

-John
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Kid Squid on January 22, 2011, 05:43:53 AM
Nice !!!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Grand Master Audio on January 22, 2011, 06:43:00 AM
woah!

yes please, id like 60 billion of those please!!

but seriously, well done, im going to get a load if available,

Pete
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: scott_humphrey on January 23, 2011, 05:13:33 PM
Those knobs look good, Electrochronic.

...and by the way, thanks for the TG1 parts. I received them safe and sound.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on January 24, 2011, 04:56:57 AM

Very sexy!

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Ptownkid on January 24, 2011, 08:09:54 AM
Nice! Glad to see this progressing. Things like this are always a lot of work, kudos to you.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: lassoharp on January 24, 2011, 11:07:33 AM
RCA Console Knob

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/maxwall/RCA3.jpg)


These appear to be the same knob available through weber speakers


https://taweber.powweb.com/store/rcaknob.jpg
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: haima on January 24, 2011, 12:55:24 PM
Looks good electrochronic!

I'm keen on the red and grey ones BTW.

Are you knobs larger than these ones?

(http://www.tgmixers.co.uk/Website%20Pictures/EMIknobs.jpg)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on January 24, 2011, 05:51:47 PM
yours look great... will they have the white infill on the pointer?

if made from original moulds, how come these slight variations exist?


Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on January 24, 2011, 07:08:14 PM
IOW, they're the Fairchild style, rather than the EMI type ..?
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on January 25, 2011, 07:24:59 AM
great. Just curious more than anything.

both look lush and I will still love an handfull (looking forward to red & grey samples ;)

Great job dude.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Jim50hertz on January 25, 2011, 10:22:08 AM
TG in red, gray and black please  :)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on January 25, 2011, 10:30:16 AM

TG in red, gray and black please  :)


Yup, me too!

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: snipsnip on January 25, 2011, 10:58:32 AM
I prefer style in haimas stockli photo... im too stupid to know if this is TG or Fchild.

Red & Grey.

Respect for whatever you end up with though.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: jackies on January 25, 2011, 11:30:55 AM
The knob referred to as "Fairchild" is a regular General Radio knob, KNP-1 or something, can't remember exact name but I have a couple somewhere (in gray color), not with me at the moment... I, for instance, wanted to see knobs like that (GR/Fairchild) in black.
But don't mind me, I would only buy a dozen at most...
Now, could it be a coincidence that our British chaps are all voting for the TG style in grey and red colour?
 ;D
Naturally, would be happy to have either ones...
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: lsskmki on January 25, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
Definitely in for TG style knobs and interested in all colors like I mentioned earlier... Will probably order more than just five of each, though.  :)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sine_wave on January 25, 2011, 08:15:51 PM
I'm definitely good for several TG knobs in each color. Besides being perfect for the TG1, they will also look great on a lot of other projects as well. I know I'd love to use them on my REDD47 project. Frank, are you still expecting the black TG prototype in about 2 weeks?
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on January 26, 2011, 01:03:11 AM
TG for me I guess. All quantities hold..
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MartyMart on January 26, 2011, 03:34:13 AM
These will get cheap enough soon to make any knob that can be scanned !!

http://www.3dscanningtechnologies.com/3dscanningPage.php?Jay_Leno_s_3D_Printer_Replaces_Rusty_Old_Parts-22/

MM
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: MagnetoSound on January 26, 2011, 04:22:31 AM
These will get cheap enough soon to make any knob that can be scanned !!

http://www.3dscanningtechnologies.com/3dscanningPage.php?Jay_Leno_s_3D_Printer_Replaces_Rusty_Old_Parts-22/

MM


Digital technology may have just redeemed itself.

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: adeptusmajor on January 26, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
These will get cheap enough soon to make any knob that can be scanned !!

http://www.3dscanningtechnologies.com/3dscanningPage.php?Jay_Leno_s_3D_Printer_Replaces_Rusty_Old_Parts-22/

MM



That is awesome. So many ideas......






Oh yeah, I would be interested in some knobs as well
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: ChuckD on March 05, 2011, 11:32:12 PM
Did this ever happen? Anyone know where I can get some EMI knobs?

Chuck
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: leadbreath on March 24, 2011, 04:59:45 PM
this post got a bit outta control, pete can u please help?? :'(
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: sine_wave on August 16, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
So... What's the status of this project? I haven't logged on in a while and this was one of the developing threads (relared to the TG) that had me very intrigued before I took a break. I'd love some of these for my TG build.

- John
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: electrochronic on February 02, 2012, 01:40:45 AM
Has anyone made these knobs available yet ?  ::)

hopefully sooner than later........

It would be nice to have three colors too in PA or PH.

I think I would buy a few.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on February 02, 2012, 04:38:28 AM
ChuckD posted a design in his white market thread as "coming soon". No info on colours, price or time, but at least it's happening I think.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Mzaar on February 02, 2012, 04:39:14 AM
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=45767.msg596804#msg596804

Chuck is working on it.......but he said machined.......so I guess no plastic injection ie no PA or PH.

Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on February 02, 2012, 04:51:58 AM
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=45767.msg596804#msg596804

Chuck is working on it.......but he said machined.......so I guess no plastic injection ie no PA or PH.

I have a few of his Neve machined knobs and they feel very nice. I guess it's a kind of wunder audio - vintech look and feel. But it's no plastic, for better or for worse.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: electrochronic on February 02, 2012, 02:47:52 PM
The Fairchild was sort of a test run to gain some experience with tooling and QA .
A lot was learned to say the least.

Now, this time ,  EMI all the way ......

In the works right now.

can you say Black , Gray and Red ?  PA , Elma & Sifam quality

couple of months, people and you'll be loving the look of these on your front panels.

Big thanks to Zayance for helping out !!!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on February 02, 2012, 06:30:50 PM
The Fairchild was sort of a test run to gain some experience with tooling and QA .
A lot was learned to say the least.

Now, this time ,  EMI all the way ......

In the works right now.

can you say Black , Gray and Red ?  PA , Elma & Sifam quality

couple of months, people and you'll be loving the look of these on your front panels.

Big thanks to Zayance for helping out !!!

So, am I reading this right? EMI style knobs in high quality plastic? In black, gray, red?
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6171/6218640902_8c9fd8ddb1_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6218640902/)

I'm ready here..
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: mata_haze on February 03, 2012, 01:40:18 AM
I am in too.

Best,
Mattia.
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: evilcat on February 03, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
whooo Baadcode, nice build ! I understand you'd like EMI style knobs, but it already look cool  ;) Congrats!!!
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: baadc0de on February 03, 2012, 01:13:28 PM
whooo Baadcode, nice build ! I understand you'd like EMI style knobs, but it already look cool  ;) Congrats!!!

Thanks mate.. I love the wicked red dials. the only thing is it doesn't work properly yet :) some more fixing will be required. But yea it already looks "kinda there". But the knobs are supposed to take it over the top .)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: electrochronic on February 04, 2012, 01:02:58 PM
Stockli Knobs Here

http://www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/Knobs.html
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: drask on February 04, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
I'm interested by Knobs for 1x or 2x TG Stereo
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: pachi2007 on April 20, 2012, 10:22:20 AM
Any news?  :)
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: leadbreath on April 23, 2012, 08:51:12 AM
wtf!! please dont tease me again with offers of tg style knobbage....! :'(

could it be???
Title: Re: FEELER - STOCKLI / EMI / FAIRCHILD style Knobs
Post by: Sylvain D. on May 23, 2012, 07:30:51 PM
Any news? ???