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Title: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on May 30, 2017, 08:28:30 AM
This have been a long project for me since the TommyTone 1081 boards popped up here several years ago.
Me and many more bought them and also knobs and switches in the old groupbuys but the cases never materialized.

I have tried to get many people to make them for me but it have always fallen through.
Dan made a great case as a prototype for me but when i wanted to start production of them he disappeared for a while and now he seems to have dropped out completely.

So, since i did my large Neve desk rebuild i made some good contacts at a local metalshop and with the help of a friend we have made CAD drawings of the complete 1081 case.
Now i have gotten a quote for 100 pieces from the metalshop which seemed good to me and i am currently working on the frontpanel with correct paint and silcscreening which should be sorted in the next weeks.

So i wanted to check if there still is any interest in these cases?
I had several people contact me over the years asking for these but not sure if there is still enough interest to manufacure 100 of them.
Me and my friend will take about 30-40 so i would need to fill the other 60-70 pieces (or more).

The cases will be in steel and will be nickleplated as the originals and all dimensions will exact as the old ones.
I have not decided if i should change all the screws to M3 instead of the old 6BA screws, but maybe that makes sense.

I was thinking of doing two type of kits available:
One with only the casing and frontpanel, and
One kit with case, frontpanel, full set of Marconi knobs, all pushswitches with brackets and original style caps.

The only thing i am having trouble to find are the four, large square caps at the bottom of the module.
Does anyone know where to source these or something similar (other than AMS-Neve).
The gain and eq switches are available from AML as a kit.
I might do an original style PCB as well furhter on of there is interest.

My aim would be to land the case and frontpanel at ca 100 euro each and the fuller kit with knobs and switches at around ca 160 euro each (plus tax if you are not VAT registered or live outside of the EU).
I am most uncertain of the fuller kit since i have not got pricing on everything for that yet.

So what do you guys say?
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Greebok on May 30, 2017, 08:39:39 AM
Hi Dennis!
I'm in. I think at least for 16 pcs ::)
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on May 30, 2017, 11:03:51 AM
Happy to hear that Greebok!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on May 30, 2017, 01:28:52 PM
This sounds really amazing (also, I enjoyed your Neve overhaul!), but I think the problem of getting to 100 pieces for the group buy would be hindered by the fact the 1081 boards are no longer available. I think if there was a PCB set being made again that would be ensure at least 100 PCS sold. I know I would be down for at least a pair.

I think you shouldn't bother with offering a fuller kit unless you plan on running an online store and maintain inventory. Those that plan on undertaking this project should be assumed they know how to source parts and what not. Maybe a source(s) of the hard to find switches/parts would be helpful.

I hope this very worthy project become reality!

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on May 30, 2017, 02:57:08 PM
Hi Paul.

Yes, my focus will be on getting the actual cases together first.
The marconi kits and switches with switchcaps will be secondary since there are options to what to use there.

My friend have been working on getting a new 1081 pcb together and i believe he will offer this togehter with the cases, but i need to see if we can synchronize it all in the next weeks/months.

I do think we can hit 100 cases without the pcb though since there are many of the old ones floating around and i am already up to about 70 cases that are spoken for.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on May 30, 2017, 03:03:29 PM
Then I will standby to see how the PCB works out. Myself a whole bunch of others here would be very keen on getting several of these if both case and board come to fruition.

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on May 30, 2017, 03:09:53 PM
Ok Paul, i understand.
I will check with my friend then and report back to see exactly how far he have come.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: salomonander on May 30, 2017, 03:32:57 PM
id take 8 frames with undrilled frontpanels.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: moltenwok on May 30, 2017, 06:57:32 PM
Probably keen on 8-16 kits with bits here
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Rocinante on May 31, 2017, 09:12:09 PM
Last I checked Tommytones still had a few complete pcb kits.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Jarek on June 03, 2017, 06:18:08 AM
I'd be in for 4 sets with frontpanels and push switches.

I've finished two sets from TommyTones in 19" diy enclosures. But would love
to make the rest in "original" state.
BTW... amazing pre & eq. Components are expensive (switches & knobs)
but worth it... Quality costs.

I've also upgraded TNC81 (left in original input trannies) but these are
different. Gain stage on input is different and output is based on BA283.
EQ also "feels" different although circuit is the same...
Go figure...
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 05, 2017, 06:48:33 AM
That is great Jarek.
i will put you on the "list".

As of today we are very close to 100 cases so i am pretty sure that this will happen.
Wednsday i will go to the metal shop  and see if they are willing to do a prototype for me before full scale production.
Will report back here.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: kvintus on June 05, 2017, 10:20:45 AM
I'm in for 1 or 2.

/Anders
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: mesajoe on June 05, 2017, 10:51:59 AM
I will take 24 cases
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 05, 2017, 03:04:13 PM
That is great Mesajoe and Kvintus.

Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: mesajoe on June 05, 2017, 03:39:28 PM
It would be great to see any renders or drawings on the design.. A prototype would be better still..
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 05, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
Of  course, i totally understand that.
As i wrote above i will meet with the metalshop on wednesday to see what they coold cook up.

I could post pictures tomorrow of the prototype i did with Dan, these cases will be identical to that one.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: ubxf on June 05, 2017, 04:43:21 PM
Can  1081 cases be adapted to 1073
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: mesajoe on June 05, 2017, 05:07:45 PM
I would of thought so, albeit the 1073 has a different faceplate to the 1081. I would imagine the rest of the case is identical. Happy to be corrected though!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: mesajoe on June 05, 2017, 05:10:24 PM
I could post pictures tomorrow of the prototype i did with Dan, these cases will be identical to that one.

That would be perfect, thanks. Personally I would go for the same imperial screws as the original.. they are easily available..
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: salomonander on June 05, 2017, 05:20:33 PM
Can  1081 cases be adapted to 1073

from what i know - no. the 1081 is higher. cheers
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 05, 2017, 05:42:59 PM
Thats correct Salomander.
The 1073 is a few inches lower than the 1081.

About the imperial screws its not so easy as you would think.
Try find the countersunk hex head 6BA omes in black with the correct lenght.
Its not easy.
And does anyone have a good source for pressnuts or Hank rivet bushings with 6BA thread?
I have only found some rusty ones on ebay but would love to know where they can be found.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Jarek on June 06, 2017, 10:07:16 AM
I agree... Imperial are hard to source. At least here in EU.
If this doesn't heart anyone’s feelings I would prefer M3
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: salomonander on June 06, 2017, 10:57:00 AM
I agree... Imperial are hard to source. At least here in EU.
If this doesn't heart anyone’s feelings I would prefer M3

me too
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 06, 2017, 10:59:19 AM
I can agree with it to and will most likely do some for myself with 6BA but do the main batch with M3.
I just need to make sure the countersunk holes in the frontpanel will be a good fit for both, M3 is usually larger if i remember correctly.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 06, 2017, 11:17:21 AM
Here is the chassis that Dan made for me a few years back.
These will be very similar if not the same with a more correct frontpanel with both orange and white lettering.

(http://www.9voltstudio.se/neve_1081_chassi/1081_chassis_1.jpg)

(http://www.9voltstudio.se/neve_1081_chassi/1081_chassis_2.jpg)

(http://www.9voltstudio.se/neve_1081_chassi/1081_chassis_3.jpg)

(http://www.9voltstudio.se/neve_1081_chassi/1081_chassis_4.jpg)

(http://www.9voltstudio.se/neve_1081_chassi/1081_chassis_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 06, 2017, 11:20:17 AM
Here is a comparison i did between, left to right, original Neve, Dans and AMS-Neve.


(http://www.9voltstudio.se/neve_1081_chassi/1081_metalwork_2.jpg)

(http://www.9voltstudio.se/neve_1081_chassi/1081_metalwork_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 15, 2017, 06:02:52 PM
Sorry for the delay in getting back with an update.

So i have now spoken with the metalshop and done some more research.
They can do a prototype but it will cost a fair bit of money, and if i should get it all ready plated, painted and silkscreened it will take about a month to get it all done.
Then in July they are closing for holidays for about five weeks so wont be able to start production until August.

So, i wanted to ask all of you that showed interest if its important for you to see a prototype before you commit?
I have no problem doing it, the actual cost for each complete chassi will  only be a few euros, but its more the time that worries me.
I would rather get the ball rolling now and get these done before they go on holiday, but its realy up to you guys.

The finished product will be more or less exactly as the one pictured above, but with a few improvements.
The nickel finish will be better and more smooth.
The frontpanel will be painted in the exact correct BS633 Raf blue/grey
Frontpanel will also be screened in both white and correct orange for the gainswitch markings.
Most likely i will have the upper and lower panels (with the guides) drilled out for 1073/1064 as well so we could use the same part further on if i decide to do more cases.
Also, the inner frontpanel will most likely have oval holes for the pushswitches so different switchchassis could be mounted.

Then I still have not been able to find a pressnut or Henry bush rivet in 6BA in larger quantitues.
AMS-Neve use them for the frontpanel (and M3 for the rest) so they must be avilable somewhere.
Does anyone have a clue?
Personally i believe the M3 on the front are to big and looks bad, so would like to do them all with 6BA.
I have found the correct screws so they are not a problem anymore.

Let me know what you all think!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: salomonander on June 16, 2017, 07:44:29 AM
hey API,
i might be wrong - but i think a 6BA has the exact same thread as m3. so you can use a regular m3 nut with a 6BA screw. im not 100% certain, so please double check this..
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: kvintus on June 18, 2017, 02:16:14 PM
I am absolutely fine with waiting a couple of months for this. Still interested in two cases. Is there a source for the square pushbuttons?

/Anders
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Jarek on June 19, 2017, 04:00:40 AM
I'm fine with waiting as well... These square PP ITT switches with caps gives me headache as well...
@API do you have source for these?

//Jarek
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Greebok on June 19, 2017, 04:47:20 AM
These square PP ITT switches with caps gives me headache as well...
@API do you have source for these?

+1 regarding pushbuttons and caps.
I would replace them with NKK's KB series. They are very hi quality illuminated switches, more reliable and so on.. and easy to mount as well - just a round hole is required. The symbols can be printed on films and inserted into the caps.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: tommytones on June 22, 2017, 09:52:24 AM
Hey API...tried to PM you but your box is full.  Check your e-mail...
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: lolo-m on June 24, 2017, 12:44:04 PM
If it's not too late put me in for a few cases. To be honest I would dream about 10 of them but I don't know if I'll be able to pay when they'll be ready so... Depending on when and how much I would buy from2 to 10 boxes/kits.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on June 25, 2017, 02:20:30 PM
Hi again.

Have been away for a week but back home again.
So, i have decided that i will do a proto case after all before the metalshop closes for the summer.
Then i will check and recheck so everything is ok and start production when they open up in August again.
That means that they will most likely be finished at the end of August.
It fits my schedule better and i think its the same from many others judging by the reactions i have gotten so far.

@salomander, unfortunately the M3 and 6BA thread are not the same, the 6BA is closer to a M2.5 but not quite either.
But this will give me more time to hunt down the 6BA pressnuts, they must be available somewhere on this planet.

About the square switchcaps i am still trying to sort that out.
I might even go so far as to making a mould for them, but i am looking into costs right now.
I have a company that can do them for about 4 euros each if order many, but i have not seen their work and how good they are.

I did look into the NKK switches @greebok, but if we go that route i need to design the case around those since mounting and the opening in the frontpanel needs to be different.
But its not a bad solution at all.

More news to come as i find out more...
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on September 12, 2017, 07:04:09 AM
Hi guys.

Sorry for the long wait, but summer is now finally over and we can get back to our dungeons of DIY.

So, i have been trying to sort out a few things in the past months, and my metalshop were also closed for some weeks.
But now i am back on track with the project and have found a M2.5 pressnut that works good for the case.
I have opted to use M2.5 since it have the same threading as the old 6BA and roughly the same size, you can thread a 6BA in a M2.5 hole but not the other way around, and this is the way AMS-Neve have solved it on their cases.

What is still a problem is the white/black switchcaps, i have been looking into making molds and also 3D printing, but both have their backdraws and it will also cost alot to start up production of these.
I did check the NKK KB switches and these will work, but are somewhat larger which could look weird to some people, but at least they will work.
If you google a Neve 3104 module you will get they basic idea of what it will look like since they used a similar sized switchcap, but keep in mind that the modules are just 35mm wide so looks even bigger in those.
Possibly i could do two versions, one with original and one with NKK´s.

I will however make the prototype with the original style switches and will post pics of it as soon as its done.

But i wanted to ask everyone that expressed interest before if they are still interested?
The list i previously made looked like this:

Myself 16-24
Mikael 16
Acke 24

Mesa Joe 24
Serge 16
Greebook 16
Salomander 8
Moltenwok 8-16

Would be great if you guys could let me know!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on September 12, 2017, 10:54:08 AM
Just to clarify, these are the module version that will require a console or a chassis designed for the historic 1081, correct?


Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: lolo-m on September 12, 2017, 01:03:05 PM
2 for sure and certainly more depending on price and when.
So count me in for 2- up to 10
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on September 12, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
Yes, that is correct, they will be original style for a console or rack.

As soon as the proto is done i will have a better clue on pricing, but i would say just over 100 euro each, but dont quote me on that, i might have forgotten something in that calculation.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on September 12, 2017, 01:10:38 PM
Yes, that is correct, they will be original style for a console or rack.

As soon as the proto is done i will have a better clue on pricing, but i would say just over 100 euro each, but dont quote me on that, i might have forgotten something in that calculation.

Copy that.

I'll either have to get a 1081 rack or painfully try not to think about this project. Either way, phenomenal work, sir. I'll stay tuned to see how it turns out.

I picked a bad day to quit DIY'ing.....

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: delaymix on September 12, 2017, 07:15:52 PM
Great! I would be interested for 8 boxes.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on September 27, 2017, 03:51:45 AM
If there will be PCBs available as well, I would definitely take 2, possibly 4. I have an upcoming project that these would be most helpful.

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: kvintus on October 01, 2017, 03:31:15 PM
1pcs for me please.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on October 03, 2017, 11:44:02 AM
Hi guys.

Sorry for not keeeping you updated lately, but have been busy with yet another console restoration.

But i do have some good news, i have found a switchcap that will work for the lower four switches.
They look slighly different and the surface is slighltly concave, but they will work for me.
This is the only switchcap i have found that have the same measurments as the original and will fit on a ITT style switch.
It also should be possible to engrave this style, but i will look into this next week.
Will post pics below.

I have also sorted out the pressnuts and screws, and have decided that all will be M2.5 to keep the original look.

As soon as the prototype is done i will post pictures here and start a new thread for orders.
I do hope everyone that previously expressed interest is still in for some :)

Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on October 03, 2017, 11:52:35 AM
sideview
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on October 03, 2017, 11:53:10 AM
backview
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Greebok on October 03, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
Very nice!  ::)
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: lolo-m on January 09, 2018, 08:31:43 AM


As soon as the prototype is done i will post pictures here and start a new thread for orders.
I do hope everyone that previously expressed interest is still in for some :)



I will take 2 for sure... And depending on when you'll be ready, more. (I would love to have 10 of them but maybe my wallet won't allow me to buy them so 2 for sure).
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 09, 2018, 08:37:10 AM
Hi all.

I was actually going to post today in this thread since i reccieved the first prototype of the cases yesterday!
There is still some more tweaking to do so will do another one before i post any pics.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on January 09, 2018, 12:07:48 PM
Interested in 16 depending on quality......
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 09, 2018, 01:28:15 PM
Quality will be as good as the originals.
Will get in touch with everyone that expressed interest once i have the final prototype ready.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on January 09, 2018, 02:25:44 PM
ok
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Winetree on January 09, 2018, 02:35:22 PM
2 or more depending on price
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on January 11, 2018, 07:56:39 PM
Also looking for 8 1084 frames ............. :o
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Jarek on January 12, 2018, 02:46:26 AM
I'd take 2 or 4. Depends on the price.
Btw... Protos looks very nice. Well done.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: wmarden on January 14, 2018, 05:00:43 PM
I would like at least a pair of these baby's! Very awesome!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: dustbro on January 14, 2018, 07:20:01 PM
I could do 4
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 15, 2018, 01:35:42 PM
Thanks guys, i have put you on the list.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: djn111 on January 16, 2018, 06:20:29 AM
Hello,

Great job !

I could be in for 4 and 4 without front panel (1063), all depending on the money thing.

Regards DJN
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: djn111 on January 16, 2018, 06:22:38 AM
Hello,

And one more thing, if somebody has a unbuild kit from Tommy Jones, and can make good scan's (600dpi >) of both sides of the PCB's I am happy to make new pcb files for them.

DJN
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 16, 2018, 11:16:46 AM
DJN, for sure, i will let you all know when i am ready to go ahead.
I am planning to do a 1064 version later on, if thats what you meant.

Also @thestudio, there will be a 1084 version as well later on, but need to finish the 1081 first....
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: djn111 on January 16, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
Hi,

Yes sorry 1064 :-) typo 1073 without the dual concentric and only one input transformer.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56325ea2e4b0ae45ccab74fe/t/56f3f9e47c65e43ec6b2e8dd/1458829821770/

Anyone on the scan's ?

DJN
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 16, 2018, 01:49:30 PM
The 1064 have both line and mic input transformers.
Its the 1063 that only have one, but that one is in the not so tall case ala 1073
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: djn111 on January 16, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
Hi,

Yes you are right :-) of course !!! never been good with numbers to remember.

DJN
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on January 16, 2018, 07:55:37 PM
What kinda of time frame on the 1081?  Also, there's another person creating a 1084 frame but he's not going to be ready many months that's why I ask...
https://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=67470.msg857048#msg857048

Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on January 16, 2018, 08:01:47 PM
Looking at your 81 in the previous pictures what's going on with the bottom four button........neve-ish?
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: wmarden on January 16, 2018, 09:33:27 PM
Looking at your 81 in the previous pictures what's going on with the bottom four button........neve-ish?

Are you refering to the size of the 4 large push buttons? Thats how the original 1081's looked.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 17, 2018, 06:40:03 AM
Yes, there is supposed to be four large buttons at the bottom of the module.
It is impossible to find the original part, but i found one that is the same physical size that will work and that is the one pictured.

I will try to get these done as soon as possible, but there are many people involved and everything should sync.
My only trouble right now is to find someone that can paint the panels in the correct way, but i do have the right paint mixed up so should not be to much trouble.

My friend is working on a new pcb as well, the old one from Tommy was not 100% correct, but this one will be.
I know he is building a testmodule right now with this pcb so i will wait to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on January 17, 2018, 11:34:10 AM
1) Is the cutout for lower four switches identical to original?
2) Can I purchase the frames without faceplate?
3) Since I have Tommy version of pcb's what's not identical?
4) How many months for 1081 frame?
5) How many months for 1084 frame?

I own a pair of Neve 1081's and I'm looking to assemble my 16 clone sets.

Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 17, 2018, 03:20:49 PM
1) Is the cutout for lower four switches identical to original?
2) Can I purchase the frames without faceplate?
3) Since I have Tommy version of pcb's what's not identical?
4) How many months for 1081 frame?
5) How many months for 1084 frame?

I own a pair of Neve 1081's and I'm looking to assemble my 16 clone sets.

1. Yes
2. Not sure yet, most likely not, and either way the price difference would not be that big.
3. I did not make those boards and have never used them.
 I do know however that there were two different versions and that i read in a thread here from someone that built them up that there was error/s on them.
Maybe you can do a search and find out, but they are usuable of course, there are people that have built them up.
4. Hopefully within a month, but dont qoute me on that.
5. No idea to be honest.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: wmarden on January 30, 2018, 01:17:10 PM
Depending on the cost, I might be in for 4-8 frames. I'm excited about this one!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on January 30, 2018, 03:50:23 PM
Great, i will add your name to the list.
The second prototype is currently in production and should be ready soon!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: wmarden on January 30, 2018, 06:03:30 PM
Great, i will add your name to the list.
The second prototype is currently in production and should be ready soon!

Sounds great! Thanks!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 04, 2018, 03:26:16 PM
Update!

So i finally got the second prototype and its looking very good!
All parts look more or less perfect and there are just some minor adjustments that needs to be made for the final version.

So now i just needs to check a few more things, prices for the engraved caps etc before i can come up with a final price.
I will offer theese in three parts:

First is chassis only with painted and silkscreened frontpanel.
Same as above plus all pushbutton switches with engraved caps (8 in total)
Same as above but plus a full set of Marconi knobs with a custom made freq. selector switch that is alot better than the Elma one.

When i have figured out final pricing i will open a new thread in the White market and contact each and everyone that have expressed interest in these chassis.
These will be sold through my company and i need to charge 25% VAT on every order that is within the EU.
But if you are outside the EU or inside with a valid VAT number there will be no VAT.

If you have any questions feel free to post them here!

Here are a few snaps i took today with my iPhone, better pictures to come.


Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 04, 2018, 03:29:51 PM
Raw chassis.
Please note that the parts are not nickleplated yet, they are just raw metal.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 04, 2018, 03:31:25 PM
Backside
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 04, 2018, 03:34:38 PM
All dressed up with a vintage frontpanel, mine will be in the same RAF blue color and will be silkscreened in white and orange as the originals.
Please note that i have only put simple Dymo labels on the bottom four switches here.
They will be engraved with the original font and size in the final version.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 04, 2018, 03:38:14 PM
Backside
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 04, 2018, 03:38:52 PM
Inside
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: wmarden on February 04, 2018, 03:59:46 PM
API,  those look killer! And another massive wiring project! Why do I love the rabbit hole so...? I keep jumping into it.

BTW, anybody know of a US source for Cranford wire?
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on February 04, 2018, 06:43:57 PM
Looks fantastic!

Couple of questions:

Is there still planning to be a PCB to accompany this?

Is there a DIY option for building the rack for these to go in or would we have to buy one from AMS/Neve, Vintage King, etc?

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 05, 2018, 03:29:38 PM
API,  those look killer! And another massive wiring project! Why do I love the rabbit hole so...? I keep jumping into it.

BTW, anybody know of a US source for Cranford wire?

Thanks!
I am in the EU so dont know where you can that wire in the US.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 05, 2018, 03:50:27 PM
Looks fantastic!

Couple of questions:

Is there still planning to be a PCB to accompany this?

Is there a DIY option for building the rack for these to go in or would we have to buy one from AMS/Neve, Vintage King, etc?

Thanks!

Paul

Thanks!
I will do my best to have a pcb available as well, but i need to focus on doing the chassis first.
But i have a few options for making pcbs so i am sure that it will happen.

About the rack it would be easy to do one for DIY, the only hard part to find is the mating male Amphenol connector.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on February 05, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
Good hear about the PCBs. I was inquiring as that would solve my biggest hesitation taking on this project.

Keep up the good work!

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on February 09, 2018, 08:09:32 AM
I have (8) ten81 version 3 pcbs for sale with switches and pots..........
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on February 12, 2018, 03:22:43 PM
Just to give a heads up i expect to have everything under control and all pricing ready this weekend.
Will start a new thread and get back to everyone that expressed interest once i am ready to launch  ;)
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: wmarden on February 13, 2018, 02:07:04 AM
Just to give a heads up i expect to have everything under control and all pricing ready this weekend.
Will start a new thread and get back to everyone that expressed interest once i am ready to launch  ;)

Good to hear! Thanks for an awesome project!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: 59flame on February 13, 2018, 07:13:43 PM
should be good for 2 to possibly 4 depending on cost.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 06, 2018, 06:43:54 AM
Hi all.

Had some family business to take care of in the last few weeks but back on track now again!
So i am more or less ready to launch this project and will post in the White Market as soon as possible.

In addition to the actual chassis, i will also offer a full set of replica knobs and also all pushbutton switches with engraved knobs.
If there is interest i could also check out to possibility to offer the full set of Blore-Edwards and ELMA gain switches.
Please let me know your thoughts here about that!

The pushbutton switces will be Chinese made hardgold plated ITT/Schadow copies.
Although they are Chinese they are of better quality than the Toneluck swithches AMS-Neve uses and were made by SRS in the UK as an alternative when Schadow/ITT stopped production of their switches.
The smaller caps will be engraved with black infill like the originals and the four switches at the bottom will be the ones seen above in the thread, although they are not vintage correct, they are the best alternative i have found.
These will also be engraved with the same font and text as the old ones.


I will also offer a few other things that are Neve related.
First will be knob sets for both the 1073 and 1084 modules.
I am just about to manufacture the aluminium frequency selector and it will be a 1:1 replica of the originals with the correct satin grey finish.
Much, much better than the Elma one or any other.
The Marconi knobs will be the chinese version that everyone else use, all with 3mm setscrews.

Then i have also manufactured the original style heatsink in black anodized aluminium for the BA182/283 cards.
These will not be cheap i am afraid and are not realy neccesary, but if you want to go all the way like me, they are a nice addition to any of these cards you will build.

Lastly i will also offer the original style input transformer pcb mounted holder in nickelplated brass.
These are a 1:1 copy of the transformer holder used on the B312 card in the 1081 and many other Neve, Cadac and Audix modules among others.
I think these will be a nice addition to any new or vintage build that uses the new Carnhill inputs or any vintage version.
These will be available as single ones or as wholesale for any other builders or kitmakers out there.

Please let me know if you have any questions!

Dennis
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on March 06, 2018, 02:47:31 PM
This is great news indeed.

I don't think you should worry about stocking the Blore/Elma switches. I think that will be more of a headache for you and the parts are readily available directly through Blore and Don Audio.

The switches, caps, and input transformer holders would be very handy to be able to buy with the chassis.

I think the only other thing that would be helpful is listing a source for the cards, edge connectors, and possibly a wiring diagram.

Providing the cases, push button switches, and caps are going to keep you busy enough. Outside of that I would suggest letting your customers utilize other members of this community and their DIY skills to take of the rest.

Amazing work!

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Jarek on March 10, 2018, 02:39:12 AM
Well done Dennis! Amazing work... Looks very good.

I second comment from Paul. Case, switches caps and maybe edge connector for racking
would be prio 1.
Collin @ audio maintenance stocks Elma and Blore switches. Frequency selector knobs are
interesting though...

Thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 10, 2018, 03:45:41 PM
Thanks for the encouraging words!

Ok, I will leave the Blore Edwards switches out of the equation for now then.
As you say i will be busy enough anyway.

Still had other things to take care of last week and this weekend, but will do the post in the white market next week, promise!

Frequency knobs will be done for sure!
I am sure that people building any 1073/84 modules would want those as well.

My friend is working on a pcb as well which will hopefully be available soon as well.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on March 12, 2018, 11:52:04 AM
I have (14) 1081 pcb sets with BE switches
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 21, 2018, 04:19:54 PM
Hi guys.

Sorry that its taking some time to get the thread up, but now its finally paid for and i will post it in the white market tomorrow.

Here is a small rack i made for a pair of 1272 modules.
I have this drawn up and its easy for me to scale it up for a large rack to hold the 1081 modules.
It could either be freestanding like this, either with or without the wood top/bottom, or it would be easy to add angled aluminium bars on the sides that have been cut for racking.

Let me know what you think!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 21, 2018, 04:20:36 PM
Sideview.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 21, 2018, 04:23:50 PM
And from the back
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on March 21, 2018, 06:25:36 PM
Looking fantastic!

Will this also be scalable to do 8-10 modules in a rack?

The wood panels are a nice touch and it'd be great to have if they weren't too much trouble to make in addition to what you are already doing. I think just having a chassis option for a 1081 module that doesn't cost over $1kUSD like the VK version is the important part. Making it look sexy is the icing.

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 23, 2018, 10:32:19 AM
Thanks!

Its no problem at all to make a version with 8 or 10 modules.
This is the way Neve built their racks in the 70´s, but usually without any top or bottom panels, just sides and backplane with the ISEP crossbars.
But the problem is of course the connector, i would need to machine a part to house a connector pcb that is both slightly movable and fixed so there is some flex when inserting the module, but its doable, just have to think about it a little.

Working on the last details of my text now so will post sale thread shortly!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: thestudio on March 25, 2018, 04:36:47 PM
1081 BE switches and pcbs for sale .........14 sets.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 25, 2018, 05:11:05 PM
Thread in the White Market was posted Friday, but seems to be some trouble getting it cleared.
But hopefully tomorrow!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: wmarden on March 28, 2018, 04:16:30 PM
I'm interested in a 2 unit rack mount option for the 1081's. But also am interested in a vertical 8 unit for the 1073/1084s... Looking good API!
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 30, 2018, 02:43:42 PM
Hi and thanks!
Not sure if i ever will be able to make a 2 unit rack for these, to much work i am afraid.
A 8 slot 1073/1084 would be easier to do once i have solved the connector thing.
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on March 30, 2018, 02:46:17 PM
Here is the link to the info/order thread.

https://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=68585.msg873169#msg873169
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: Potato Cakes on April 16, 2018, 07:38:22 PM
Hi, Dennis,

Just checking in to see if any progress has been made on the new PCB design for your chassis.

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: Feeler: Original style 1081 cases
Post by: API on April 18, 2018, 03:06:53 PM
Hi guys.

Sorry for the slow activity, have been busy with my normal job and family.
I will call my friend tomorrow to see what is going on with the pcb.

I still need a few orders before i can start production of the chassis, but hopefully soon!