GroupDIY

General Discussions => Brewery => Topic started by: Ricardus on November 17, 2020, 11:36:14 AM

Title: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 17, 2020, 11:36:14 AM
Is there a GroudpDIY channel on any IRC servers anywhere? I don't know if/how many of you use IRC, but I always have an IRC client open to various servers. It might be fun to have an active channel.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Rochey on November 17, 2020, 11:40:33 AM
as much as I LOVE IRC - low bandwidth, efficienct chat etc, it might be easier and more productive to use discord.
Much more media sharing capabilities, history is stored, admin rights etc.

Discord is basically IRC on steroids, brough forth 20 years.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 17, 2020, 05:13:49 PM
But then we're just on another forum... like we're on now. The beauty of IRC is I could start a channel on Freenode right now. Done.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Whoops on November 17, 2020, 10:23:29 PM
I dont use IRS since 1998, so I really don't know...
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Dualflip on November 18, 2020, 10:42:34 PM
I dont use IRS since 1998, so I really don't know...

Same here...

I just downloaded HexChat and joined a couple of channels, wow! a blast from the past! brings back memories, I used to know many commands now I'm completely blank

Which servers/channels do you recommend?
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 19, 2020, 01:18:00 AM
Same here...

I just downloaded HexChat and joined a couple of channels, wow! a blast from the past! brings back memories, I used to know many commands now I'm completely blank

Which servers/channels do you recommend?

I mostly hang out on Freenode, but I am on some other servers as well.

 I just created a channel called #GroupDIY on freenode.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 19, 2020, 08:45:24 PM
I noticed someone named Analog Joe popped into the channel. Sorry. I was away at work at that time.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Whoops on November 19, 2020, 09:14:51 PM
Whats the reason for the IRC channel?

sorry I dont use that for 20 years and I'm not really getting the point, I'm sure I'm missing something
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Dualflip on November 19, 2020, 10:52:13 PM
I noticed someone named Analog Joe popped into the channel. Sorry. I was away at work at that time.

That would be me
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 20, 2020, 12:06:03 AM
Whats the reason for the IRC channel?

 Fun?

sorry I dont use that for 20 years and I'm not really getting the point, I'm sure I'm missing something

 Fun?
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 20, 2020, 12:06:48 AM
It's just a cool way for quick real time communication. Like if someone had a question and there were people there they could get it quick.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 20, 2020, 12:07:37 AM
That would be me

I actually have IRC in my phone but don't usually have it on.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Tubetec on November 20, 2020, 04:28:20 PM
I wouldnt mind joining in on the realtime chat idea,
I'll check out that freenode page ,
I'll just use a name similar to here for simplicity
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Holger on November 24, 2020, 02:54:08 PM
Just joined, three people...
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Tubetec on November 24, 2020, 03:54:57 PM
Both the other guys are on the American continent so probably not around until a bit later ,
Not far off Weissbier o clock here in Ireland so I'll drop over soon , around 9 my time . 
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: abbey road d enfer on November 24, 2020, 04:59:36 PM
It's just a cool way for quick real time communication. Like if someone had a question and there were people there they could get it quick.
A good receipe for proferring things that are instantly regretted... :)
I like the slowness of structured written communication.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 24, 2020, 05:34:37 PM
A good receipe for proferring things that are instantly regretted... :)
I like the slowness of structured written communication.

 Yes, because things go so well in the Brewery.   ;D

 I've used IRC for 3 decades. It's fine.  :)
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Tubetec on November 24, 2020, 06:18:11 PM
Slowness of structure...
theres a time for that  ,still doesnt mean everybody thinks through what they say .
Quick fire repartee brings its own dynamic to the convo too though along with the chance an off the cuff remark cuts a little too deep. Lifes a bit of roller coaster ride at the best of times  light /dark rough/smooth plus/minus .
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Brian Roth on November 26, 2020, 03:38:26 AM
I began my online wanderings in the 1980's with bulletin boards and Compuserve.  25 years ago  I was an internet newbie using my 56K dialup modem and a local ISP in Okla. City.  Browser was Netscape (and I had to purchase a copy from a computer store.  $35 IIRC).

I soon discovered IRC and ended up running a shareware app called mIRC.  Many fascinating discussions on many different channels.

Eons since I was on IRC, but I recall MANY different servers, each with hundreds of channels.  No idea how to tinker with this in year 2020.  mIRC went away from my apps after more than a few PC changes during the past two decades.

OK...I'm now an IRC (re)newbie again.  Hints are appreciated.

Bri

PS...I recall there were certain folks called "OPs" who had some controls on the channels.  Getting to be an OP was a badge of confidence since they protected the channel from a takeover by a bad person who would kick/ban everyone off and lock down the channel.  It used to be a Wild West sort of thing.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Brian Roth on November 26, 2020, 04:09:42 AM
Hmmmmmm...mIRC is still around:

https://www.mirc.com/

Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Tubetec on November 26, 2020, 09:50:02 AM
Moderators and Admins is the commonly used terminology these days,

Ive been involved in Internet chat around 8 years by now , Ive set up and helped run rooms , its a fairly thankless job to be honest . Most people just get along , you will like in every other walk of life get the odd sociopath or other personality disorder hell bent on mayhem, Flip side of that coin is when the Mods and Admins form a cabal and start behaving with impunity , favouritism creeps in and nice guys n gals get washed away like the snow and the rain .

In my experience the simpler you keep the interface the less hassle. Depending on the software theres all kinds of tools available such as ,giving mods or admins the abillity to sneak a look at peoples web cams or evesdrop on other users private messages's , to hold chat logs or not is another option on most softwares, then you could decide to give regular users access to logs etc . In my limited experience any of the so called mod or admin 'super powers' eventually lead to confidence breakdowns .Even if you do keep chat logs , its safer not to make them available to regular members or even staff unless theres a strong reason with checks and balances built in .
I guess over the years I found myself both sides of the fence , either as a regular chatter fighting against abuse of power by admins or trying to get genuinely nasty people removed , or trying to stand up for vulnerable souls.  Ive seen attempts at blackmail , suicidal cries for help that ended up with law enforcement involved , fell out of contact with people I was good friends with , people simply dropping dead etc.
On the upside Ive made friends with people from 'Smalltown' middle of nowhere and got many interesting views on life in far away places .

I tried to form a room without the usual pryamid heirarchical structures ,so no one person had to handle taking out the trash ,which often brings a backlash such as room hackers etc .

Ive settled on a fairly well run place in more recent years , a bit like the brewery we dont all agree on everything ,but when you get to know where people stand its easier not to step on each others toes .

Met some nice girls , some not so nice  , One girl a school teacher from Belfast started out posting nudes in pm , then links to her extra marital sex tapes to every man in the room , culminated in her asking me and another Irish guy to meet up for a threesome in a hotel , got a bit of a giggle off it but it was never going to happen .

Theres some strange fish out there for sure   ;D

My guess is forming a chat from users here isnt such a bad idea , there being a common interest , more than about 15 or 20 in a room at a time and things tend to fragment a bit though.

The less rules the better in my opinion , often you find a list of banned words in rooms , its really the context a word is used that counts I think. In any case it only requires a little creativity with the keyboard to get around word bans,  better treat people like adults not school children .

Anyway hope to see a few more try out the new space , building a room by concensus where everybody has a stake might be worth a try.



 
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Whoops on November 26, 2020, 10:19:06 AM
An IRC channel with just man no women, is a No Go for me...

I'm out!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: JohnRoberts on November 26, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
I proposed a group chat several years ago, when I observed that a lot of the Brewery traffic was chat like.

My suggestion back then was met with overwhelming silence.

No I am not looking for more trash to take out.



JR   
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Tubetec on November 28, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
Only a handful of expressions of interest so far ,
Last thing we'd want to do is land any of the team here with extra fallout/trash detail.
Same time , were in the midst of a pandemic/lockdown , people are isolated , an informal space where people could chat might have some positives. As I explained previously Administration/moderation of such spaces isnt without its pitfalls ,thats not to say a self moderating/self policing strategy couldnt be devised and function entirely separately from the forum. Anyway just bouncing ideas around , very happy to hear other peoples suggestions.
Title: Re: GroupDIY on IRC?
Post by: Ricardus on November 28, 2020, 11:57:54 PM
The channel exists. Log in or don't log in.