Festival gear porn...Check this out!

Check out this link!

http://users.pandora.be/Rogy/Velvet%20Revolver.JPG

This picture is taken in belgium on the Pukkelpop festival.

I already saw a lot of gear porn over the years but this is really the max!

This rack was used for monitors (stage sound) by Velvet Revolver, the "old Guns 'n' Roses" without Axl Rose.


Enjoy...


PS it looks like business isn't going too bad for Mr. Averill...

Greetz

Rogy

seems like abit of an overkill seeing its going through wedge moniters to ears of guys who've been in front of cranked marshalls for over a decade :? :? :?

Ive always looked at live sound as a totally disposable entity, so long as you get to the lowest common denomonator, anything much beyond that is into diminishing returns on one level or another. If they are recording, however, thats a totally different ball of wax... I wish I had a rig available to me like that for remote recording.

dave

sorry dave ... disagree

Stand inside a real fold back tuned by a master and the quality of this stuff can be heard. Difficult to justify the expense and difficult to watch the road crew load this stuff in and out of trucks every night but there is a difference.

Remember that it is the band that pays your bill and if they like the foldback the ask you back ... again and again.

I think you might find even more esoteric and stratosphere gear in the racks with some of the Female Primadonnas and Divas..... Including the Mics.

Isn't about half that band on IEMs anyway?

With a good set of in-ears, it's really easy to hear how noisy a 166xl or an MPX110 sounds compared to "real" gear. Grungy console preamps won't pass muster either, even in a set of glorified earbuds.

-dave

Hi Dave,

Well I'm working as a live sound engineer for years now, and my specialty is monitor mixing. I can honestly tell you that when using good 2-way in-ear systems a sound can be achieved which is every bit as good as listening to a cd on studio speakers; with in-ears all acoustical influences are bypassed (except for the "room sound" picked up by the mics of course) and very often the in-ear mixes are complete mixes containing even the slightest detail that is being produced on stage.

A lot of good musicians playing together in good bands expect nothing less than having a monitor sound which is as good as playing in the studio.

If you ever have the chance to listen to one of these in-ear mixes with 2-way (or even 3-way) in-ears, check it out and you will be very surprised!!!

Greetz,


Rogy

Somebody's apparently got a crush on Brent Averill! :shock: :green:

IEM's are definitely different than what I was thinking, the budget half assed PA's in smaller american venues. With an IEM, you can at least hear what is going on but with house monitoring, in the states, with the neglect most systems are given, I think if you were to make any kind of good use of that kind of a setup, you'd be bringing your own PA as well...

dave

Dave,
don't get me wrong ... crap monitor systems are just that - CRAP but a few of my mates had systems that were beyond good and quite frankly the best LOUD sound I have ever experienced.

Simply too expensive to make a living from. So they were only trotted out for specials that usually meant ... ourselves for our own pleasure.

I've spent the last year part time trying to come up with an IEM system that is scalable.
It seems there is one one way to do IEM's .... and that is one with the lot ... all or nothing.
I'm still working on it.

[quote author="Rogy"]...Enjoy...[/quote]Yes indeed! (Why do I enjoy looking at that so much?!!)

I just finished a 3 week run doing IEMs on a club tour. It was a nightmare to get anything consistent because it was a different system every night. All I was carrying was a Shure UHF wireless and a PSM-600. This time I am bringing a Daking Pre/EQ and splitting that to the house and monitor world. I think the singer is going to mess himself...

:guinness: :guinness:

kev-

have you ever been on tour in the states? The first time I did a tour in Europe I swear, I felt like my brain was dripping out my ear the whole time, completely in shock at the night and day differences between venues there and here. More or less, and of course there are exceptions, but for the most part, clubs in the US exist because some guy heard a good way to sell the well drinks was to have bands play, so even in venues that seat 1K, you've got whatever cheap horrid shit they could get cheap for sound reinforcement as whatever it took to get it loud would be good enough for the dumb americans. Compare that to rock clubs in europe where they are mostly, palaces of rock. I will never, ever, ever forget the first time I toured in the netherlands, it was like, oh my god, someone actually figured out how to do this, amazing.

Perhaps I should have prefaced my comments with "in america" because in this country live sound is completely disposable. so long as its loud, its good since in %99 of the rooms out there, they are acoustically designed at all, its just a shitty room where a band plays with a menial PA and foldback just so someone can sell $6 bud lights. its very sad, but thats touring in the US. I dont do it anymore and I dont miss it one bit.

I can see IEM's really changing at least half of what Im bitching about. I think at this stage in the game, with how inexpensive someof those systems have become, if you can afford to tour with a sound man and can deal with wearing it, IEM seems to be the way to go for sure. Start saving so your guitar can go through a 1073, that would rule.

dave

from Dave:

I will never, ever, ever forget the first time I toured in the netherlands, it was like, oh my god, someone actually figured out how to do this, amazing.

Click to expand...

Just curious, do you remember which venues/cities ?

Peter

man, the one place that always stands out is the tivoli in Utrecht, that club is the most amazing place. Or at least it was the last time I was there, maybe 2000.

dave

Tivoli = very nice indeed. If it had sounded bad I'd still have a good feeling about that place :wink:

Great ambiance, seen many a concert there and played there once. Definitely one of the nicest places here.

In my gig playing days - I used to dream about foldback
I would say that 99% of the bands playing live in the UK don't have foldback
Clubs outside the big cities are few and far between - and they are for the established bands on the circuit
The rest of us play pubs and small clubs - where you get anything from £50 to £300 a night
2 sets - 45 minutes each - 15 minutes break in between
Set up at 20:00 - soundcheck for two minutes - First set on at 21:00 - second on at 22:00
Finish at drinking up/closing time
Ears ringing because your right ear is right next to the snare drum and your left ear is listening to your amp next to you
Your pedals covered in vomit because the drunk in front of you just puked
mmhh - great fun - thank god I don't play live anymore