Respect or No Respect ?

I'm not sure "rights" is the word. Perhaps the question should be, "Can we expect our requests to be honored?"

When somebody asks other people not to sell his designs, that's usually respected.

On the other hand, asking people on a discussion forum not to discuss something is probably not going to be fruitful. We're HERE to discuss things, and not doing so ends up as the verbal equivalent of blue balls.

I'm saying that rather than answer the poll because, whether you put it in the language of "rights" or "respecting requests", my answer to (a.) sits someplace between "yes" and "no".

Peace,
Paul

I'm so sorry to read about this situation on our little forum.
I've always felt welcome and well treated here. I'm sorry your experience has been so different.

If your real intent in your last post was only to address moderators and not make a public statement that would draw responses from uninvolved members then a PM probably would have been more appropriate. Starting a thread on a public forum and then asking others not to comment probably goes too much against human nature. Comparing these responses to others actions here probably is a little of mixing apples with oranges.

I'm sorry we can't engage in face to face discussion. Intent is so hard to gauge from only written responses. Reading over these posts leaves a lot of room for misunderstanding and does everyone involved a disservice.

I hope this all works out for the best.

> I am not allowed to sell ... ... PRR's designs for profit. Why ? Because they asked me not to.

I've never made that stipulation.

ok I`m in page 6 of 13 if you put in search "buttachunk" , theses are direct quotes. if the user want to delete the quote or one of the Moderators want to do it , at least here is an easy way. I `m sick of read about this topic.
Thanks for your help with the hamptone di box buttachunk, the PM was erased too.

it`s 3:19 of the morning if someone else want to help to finish this thing please complete the list. I will try to put some more tomorrow.


Sender
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=287369&highlight=buttachunk#287369

kit, Sender
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=280158&highlight=buttachunk#280158

julianzizko
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=267807&highlight=buttachunk#267807

Jdbaker(twice), AnalogPackrat.
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=247827&highlight=buttachunk#247827

NewYorkDave, clintrubber
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=21013&highlight=buttachunk

Ssltech, RogerFoote, khstudio,
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=242128&highlight=buttachunk#242128

Ilya, SSLtech
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=242128&highlight=buttachunk#242128

SSLTech, JohnRoberts
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=232924&highlight=buttachunk#232924

tubejay
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=214541&highlight=buttachunk#214541

eskimo, alk509,
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=195126&highlight=buttachunk#195126

pucho812
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=156071&highlight=buttachunk#156071

kkrafs
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=141371&highlight=buttachunk#141371

RogerFoote
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=138747&highlight=buttachunk#138747


RogerFoote
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=137789&highlight=buttachunk#137789

bcarso
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=134199&highlight=buttachunk#134199

rodabod
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=133137&highlight=buttachunk#133137

tubejay
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=132402&highlight=buttachunk#132402

fucanay
http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=129038&highlight=buttachunk#129038

nobody has personal rights after the fact in a public debate.

whoa, what happened there? I think I missed everything. No disrespect intended to butta, but I'm not inclined to make helpful threads less helpful. I'm sure you have a legitimate reason to be angry with the forum, but please recognize that a member of your prior involvement made a huge impact on the forum and most of it was positive and useful to the majority of people who post on here.

Sorry you are so angry.

Cheers

Matt

[quote author="buttachunk"]BUT,
this forum has a spoken/unspoken policy, where I am not allowed to sell Jakob of Keef or PRR's designs for profit.[/quote]

There's a major difference between what you are asking for and your example. NOT selling someones designs without consent affects no one, removing all quotes that are part of a documented discussion affects all those who read it in the future.

I did not answer your poll as I feel that neither choice is correct. If you really want to get to the core of this topic, why not create a poll asking the members here if they are for or against the removal of your quotes within the threads they pertain to.

One of the quotes referred to above:

[quote author="SSLtech"][quote author="buttachunk"] :guinness: is this the low-mid band ? (15nf) also, how would one "shelf it" ? :green: [/quote]

They don't shelf this one... The manufacturer instead uses a 4-gang reverse-log pot and makes a second filter which tracks alongside the first, in shelf mode. -if you want shelf, you simple switch over to that output... but making one requires 4-gang rev-log pots, and if people have a hard-time finding 2-gang versions for the 9k preamp, then this is only going to be tougher...

Keef[/quote]

So you need that one erased, too? -Please tell me why it should be erased.

Feel free to take as much space as you like to explain why it needs to be removed/edited. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I am not however going to take the time and effort to -as I posted in the other (now locked) thread- read, evaluate, filter, and edit/remove as required. -It's simply too much work.

If you say that it's not, then YOU do the reading/evaluating/filtering and request that the original posters edit/modify it. -I can't ask it any more clearly, and I DON'T think it's an unreasonable proposition.

I got wrapped up in some rather more pressing stuff yesterday (as it turns out, there are fourteen SSL consoles in this city alone which need a retrofit to the master fader section, and this stuff has to be organised in such a manner that it doesn't cause excessive disruption to studio bookings) so I couldn't watch the end of the thread, but it got out of hand, it was locked by another moderator, but I would certainly have done the same.

I predict the same fate for this one. -It seems like arguing 'ownership' of posted material is a dead horse that for some reason is still getting whipped.

-A particular quote about repeating an experiment and expecting different results has been attributed to just about everyone from Benjamin Franklin to Albert Einstein, so I can't know who said it originally.

I can tell you that this thread is getting locked. -So will the next one on the same subject, and the next.

It's not 'censorship', it's signal-to-noise. A few people seem to relish the confrontation, and if there's one thing to be learned, it's that you can't make any progress by fighting the same battle over and over with them, no matter who the opponent, no matter what the forum and no matter what the 'trigger' is.

Keith

Look ***, I think you are a very smart individual, and I am truly sorry that we have argued so vehemently over this. I hope you can understand that it's not as personal as you may think, as I would feel the same way no matter who it was asking for this. I just don't think it's fair to this place or it's members to have so much information ruined.

Cheers

over and out

respect is earned and lost. not given blanketly.

erase your threads? really? why would you expect them to do that? I have never heard of that before.

BTW, I am truly sorry you have been hurt here. I am truly sorry for the loss of your insights and contributions. but if this is it, let it be it.