Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2010, 06:26:09 AM »
thanks guys - that was more discussion than I was expecting to get.  everyone seems so secretive about this build.  anyways, it does at least sound like those of you who have built this are pretty happy with its sound even if it's not as good as the chandler.
my only remaining query is then about the controls - and this is based on my ignorance of the original EMI schematic (which is not available to the general public, right?).  How come the controls are different from the original & chandler units? it suggests to me that there's something different going on under the hood.


Rob Flinn

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2010, 06:41:59 AM »
thanks guys - .....................even if it's not as good as the chandler.

Don't recall reading that !
regards Rob

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2010, 07:14:23 AM »
not explicitly, but no one was suggesting that a self build was likely to be better than the Chandler, or closer in sound to an original EMI.  my extrapolation, I guess.

Skylar

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2010, 09:36:51 AM »
Read this thread if you haven't already.

http://www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=6481.0

A link to the schematic is there somewhere.
Also there's some talk about how the Chandler is different than the original and lots of other interesting bits.
It's a fun thread.

RedNoise

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2010, 01:32:33 PM »
Hi , could someone give advices with the resistors for the HOLD ? which value do you use ?
I also have an ELMA 04-1130 but it is not for pcb mount.As I am not able to find datasheet (without being obliged to register!) , did someone know if it would do the trick for output?(I wonder because of MBB etc datas...)
« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 02:31:28 AM by RedNoise »
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Rob Flinn

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2010, 04:54:03 PM »
Another question

Which switch is the on-off-on switch.  In the build thread at the other site that nobody responds to (at least not for weeks at a time) it mentions that one should be used, but it's not entirely clear where
regards Rob

API

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2010, 05:07:52 PM »
Andy, that input transformer in your EMI compressor looks very much like an old Sowter.
It looks exacty like the input transformer of some mid 70´s Helios modules which used Sowters.

Also the big output transformers look very much like the Marinairs on the outputs in my Cadac desk.
The number on those is T1803 and they look like giant Lo1166!

Dennis


RedNoise

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2010, 06:03:49 PM »
Another question

Which switch is the on-off-on switch.  In the build thread at the other site that nobody responds to (at least not for weeks at a time) it mentions that one should be used, but it's not entirely clear where

IIRC fester answered we need a ON/OFF/ON for the bypass switch , I intend to use this one:
http://fr.farnell.com/c-k/7103p3yzqe/interrupteur-spdt-ctr-off/dp/9575049?Ntt=9575049
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Rob Flinn

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2010, 06:23:16 PM »
Another question

Which switch is the on-off-on switch.  In the build thread at the other site that nobody responds to (at least not for weeks at a time) it mentions that one should be used, but it's not entirely clear where

IIRC fester answered we need a ON/OFF/ON for the bypass switch , I intend to use this one:
http://fr.farnell.com/c-k/7103p3yzqe/interrupteur-spdt-ctr-off/dp/9575049?Ntt=9575049

From Fester
Quote
2. WHERE and HOW to connect the switches that engages the rele's for the TRAFO or OPAMP selection ?... 'cause i see only the bypass switch ... dear UNCLE can you give me some hints ??

This is ON-Off-ON switch.

Looking at what uncle F posted I'm not sure that he's saying the on-off-on is the bypass switch, or whether its the limit/THD switch.  After all why would you need 3 positions on a bypass switch, they're normally either in or out surely.  Unless i'm missing something ?
regards Rob

RedNoise

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2010, 01:57:48 AM »
you're 'quite' right!I 'meant' the trafo-pass...sorry ,I'm confused!
This said , you can see at the other forum page 2 , a new picture of the "new case" , apparently designed for V1.2 , were you can read "IRON/BYPASS/CLEAN" just near the vu meter .
In your quote , I'm pretty sure Fester wanted to highlight the fact bypass and trafopass were mixed in only one switch.(I really hope this is the truth , otherwise I do not see where to connect this switch !)

Quote
Re: TG build thread
by Uncle Fester on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:59 am

Quote
So if i understand correctly, when i use an ON-OFF-ON switch i will have IRON, BYPASS, CLEAN ?

Yes, exactly.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 03:15:10 AM by RedNoise »
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RedNoise

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2010, 02:29:28 AM »
I really think this thread would be cool if it's re-named : TG build & help thread ...Moderators???
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Rob Flinn

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2010, 08:22:13 AM »
Understand re switch

I think you're right about the thread title.  The thread at the other forum hardly gets looked at, & it would be much better to have it here.
regards Rob

sintech

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2010, 09:12:46 AM »
I think the official build thread is on the DIY-Racked forum, and it should stay at that place and be supported by the Team that sold the project to you.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 09:15:03 AM by sintech »

Rob Flinn

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2010, 09:17:58 AM »
I think the official build thread is on the DIY-Racked forum, and it should stay at that place and be supported by the Team that sold the project to you.

The reality is that it isn't supported very well there, & there seems to be no reason why we can't discuss it here that I can think of.   
regards Rob

RedNoise

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2010, 09:52:56 AM »
it would be much better to have it here.
I even cannot get registred at the other site so...
Let's continue here as long as moderators do not lock this thread!(Or explain why it cannot be done here)

So : can someone help me regarding the HOLD switch?Which resistors (and why if possible) do you use here?
« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 09:59:43 AM by RedNoise »
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Rob Flinn

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2010, 11:30:50 AM »
it would be much better to have it here.
I even cannot get registred at the other site so...
Let's continue here as long as moderators do not lock this thread!(Or explain why it cannot be done here)

So : can someone help me regarding the HOLD switch?Which resistors (and why if possible) do you use here?

If you look at the pdf of the diagram in the bottom left corner it has values written for the hold switch.
regards Rob

RedNoise

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2010, 11:46:29 AM »
thanks!
In fact I was looking at the mb schemo provided in the v2 , where the values are replaced by "*".
« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 04:58:05 AM by RedNoise »
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sintech

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2010, 05:58:38 PM »
I think the official build thread is on the DIY-Racked forum, and it should stay at that place and be supported by the Team that sold the project to you.

The reality is that it isn't supported very well there, & there seems to be no reason why we can't discuss it here that I can think of.   

It would be nice to see Fester and Purusha actually support the project you guy's invested in, that's why it's maybe best supported on the DIY-Racked forum, or is it profit and run?

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2010, 12:50:11 PM »
No, i don't think it's profit and run. In reality, it's DIY. Fester's a good guy...i'm sure he'll be around.
The boards look fantastic.

I've almost finished the parts list...whew. Sourcing stuff for this was a bit tricky.
Weird cap values, extinct parts, etc etc..

Biggest thing here i'm thinkin...is matching stuff, AOT...and meters.

Rob Flinn

Re: TG1 - advice from any one who has built it...
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2010, 01:46:19 PM »
I'm close to powering up, but I keep getting other work come in which takes priority unfortunately.

regards Rob


 

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