haima

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #280 on: September 15, 2010, 11:52:35 AM »
my Sound generator will not go that far in terms of voltage, any tips on doing this in Lab without much fuss ???

if you signal generator is too weak you can try boosting on the EQN to get you up to the clipping point. the test waveform will look weird but you can still look for symmetrical clipping... just an idea.


Grooveteer

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #281 on: September 15, 2010, 02:14:23 PM »




I like Jeff's knobs...  :o  No, wait.. I mean..   ;D

dandeurloo

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #282 on: September 15, 2010, 03:58:33 PM »
Here is what I came up with for knobs.  Found them at a surplus store.  ;D






PROFESSIONAL CHASSIS AND FRONT PANELS FOR DIY PROJECTS: WWW.COLLECTIVECASES.COM

Dan Deurloo
www.collectivecases.com
www.risendrums.com

ultra-alex

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #283 on: September 15, 2010, 04:05:41 PM »
massive types for the greyhills, but definitely unique. ;)

tim-burns

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #284 on: September 16, 2010, 05:49:40 AM »
This is what I'm up to in the knob department at present.

Peter
i've got knob envy, whats the brand/part number for your knobs? I've had a look round but can't seem to get the right combo...
cheers
Tim

zayance

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #285 on: September 16, 2010, 06:44:53 AM »
Just a little update for those who need that info, i've done clipping calibration following Briomusic's tip on that, thanks to him, pretty simple procedure, don't know why i couldn't figure out that by myself ::), meaning using Compressor Make-up gain for boosting the signal on the way up to the EQN, well the figures were looking good without doing nothing, well my trimmers were at unity when received, i believe that's enough for getting to a quiescent point, i trimmed a tad to get it to be precise, so if you don't need precision, then i believe you can skip that part, well that's on my side, but wanted to inform those who don't want to bother and maybe don't have the tools etc....
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 06:47:40 AM by zayance »

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #286 on: September 16, 2010, 10:38:46 AM »
i've got knob envy, whats the brand/part number for your knobs? I've had a look round but can't seem to get the right combo...
cheers
Tim

Tim,
The bigguns are actual BBC knobs and are made of unobtanium.
RS part 465-9886 is similar, but comes without any markings..!! So you'll have to engrave the lines.
The littleuns are RS part 465-9820. I leave the pot shaft length at max and slip a Hellerman sleeve on.

peter

Here's a pic of my bodged engraving job.

« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 10:44:28 AM by peter purpose »
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tim-burns

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #287 on: September 16, 2010, 11:38:42 AM »
That's great thanks mate.
Unobtainium - that's genius!

crisotop

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #288 on: September 18, 2010, 03:58:33 AM »
Another question about the Q switch: Peter, you said the higher R17 the sharper the bandwidth of the mid-band - right? But by flicking the Q switch in the "Hi" position R19 is in parallel with R17 thus making the Q of the band wider? Or have I overlooked something

Thanks
Christoph

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #289 on: September 19, 2010, 06:49:34 AM »
Another question about the Q switch: Peter, you said the higher R17 the sharper the bandwidth of the mid-band - right?
Wrong
But by flicking the Q switch in the "Hi" position R19 is in parallel with R17 thus making the Q of the band wider?
Grab a pair of resistors of the same size and measure them in parallel... report back.
Or have I overlooked something.
See above.
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I reserve the right to not sell to idiots


crisotop

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #290 on: September 19, 2010, 12:25:23 PM »
it doesn't matter how many resistors I stick in parallel, the length of the resistance remains approximately the same - I can only measure longer resistance if I put them in series?  :P

Damnit, I've read that post on page ten two times and still got it wrong - going to shut up for know until it's finished

cheers
Christoph

dmp

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #291 on: September 20, 2010, 10:27:32 AM »
Page ten, Peter says LOWER resistance than 6.8k makes a sharper Q.
Adding a resistor in parallel to 6.8k will lower the resistance.
Thus: R19 || R17 lowers the resistance and makes a sharper Q

crisotop

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #292 on: September 20, 2010, 11:28:14 AM »
yeah, yeah - rub it in my face :D

thanks for the double clarification, I got it after reading the post a third time ;)

best, christoph

dmp

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #293 on: September 21, 2010, 09:39:20 PM »
I got a request for my parts list... so here it is. If it is not here, it was either in the parts kit from Audio Maintenance, or I had it on the shelves already. Use at your own risk; I've only partially assembled mine.

Resistor   820 ohm   299-820-rc   mouser
Resistor   4.7Meg miniature (1/8 watt)   299-4.7M-RC   mouser
Resistor   6.2k   271-6.2k-rc   mouser
Resistor   12 / 2w   594-5083NW12R00J   mouser
Resistor   47 / 2w   97M4543   newark
Pot   50k linear small footprint   785-392C350K   mouser
Q   BC184c   512-BC184C   mouser
Capacitor   470p 2.5mm   490-3656-ND   digikey
Capacitor   680p 2.5mm   490-3755-ND   digikey
Capacitor   1n COG 2.5mm   490-3674-ND   digikey
Capacitor   220p COG 2.5mm   490-3638-ND   digikey
Capacitor   330p COG 2.5mm   490-3723-ND   digikey
Capacitor   470 pf cog 5mm   490-3738-ND   digikey
Capacitor   10uf / 25v tant   74-199D25V10-E   mouser
Capacitor   22uf / 16v tant   74-199D16V22-E3   mouser
Capacitor   47p 2.5mm    140-50N2-470J-TB-RC   mouser
Capacitor   470p 2.5mm   490-3656-ND   digikey
Capacitor   680p 2.5mm   490-3755-ND   digikey
Capacitor   1n COG 2.5mm   490-3674-ND   digikey
Capacitor   68uf/10v small electro   667-EEU-FM1C680   mouser
Capacitor   10pf COG 2.5mm   140-500N2-100J-RC   mouser
Capacitor   180pf COG 5mm   140-50N5-181J-TB-RC   mouser
Capacitor   220p COG 2.5mm   490-3638-ND   digikey
Capacitor   330p COG 2.5mm   490-3723-ND   digikey
Capacitor   470 pf cog 5mm   490-3738-ND   digikey
Capacitor   4.7nf film, 5mm thin   505-MKP24700/630/5   mouser
Tr   MJE3055   512-MJE3055TTU   mouser



canidoit

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #294 on: September 21, 2010, 10:02:28 PM »
I got a request for my parts list... so here it is. If it is not here, it was either in the parts kit from Audio Maintenance, or I had it on the shelves already. Use at your own risk; I've only partially assembled mine.

Resistor   820 ohm   299-820-rc   mouser
Resistor   4.7Meg miniature (1/8 watt)   299-4.7M-RC   mouser
Resistor   6.2k   271-6.2k-rc   mouser
Resistor   12 / 2w   594-5083NW12R00J   mouser
Resistor   47 / 2w   97M4543   newark
Pot   50k linear small footprint   785-392C350K   mouser
Q   BC184c   512-BC184C   mouser
Capacitor   470p 2.5mm   490-3656-ND   digikey
Capacitor   680p 2.5mm   490-3755-ND   digikey
Capacitor   1n COG 2.5mm   490-3674-ND   digikey
Capacitor   220p COG 2.5mm   490-3638-ND   digikey
Capacitor   330p COG 2.5mm   490-3723-ND   digikey
Capacitor   470 pf cog 5mm   490-3738-ND   digikey
Capacitor   10uf / 25v tant   74-199D25V10-E   mouser
Capacitor   22uf / 16v tant   74-199D16V22-E3   mouser
Capacitor   47p 2.5mm    140-50N2-470J-TB-RC   mouser
Capacitor   470p 2.5mm   490-3656-ND   digikey
Capacitor   680p 2.5mm   490-3755-ND   digikey
Capacitor   1n COG 2.5mm   490-3674-ND   digikey
Capacitor   68uf/10v small electro   667-EEU-FM1C680   mouser
Capacitor   10pf COG 2.5mm   140-500N2-100J-RC   mouser
Capacitor   180pf COG 5mm   140-50N5-181J-TB-RC   mouser
Capacitor   220p COG 2.5mm   490-3638-ND   digikey
Capacitor   330p COG 2.5mm   490-3723-ND   digikey
Capacitor   470 pf cog 5mm   490-3738-ND   digikey
Capacitor   4.7nf film, 5mm thin   505-MKP24700/630/5   mouser
Tr   MJE3055   512-MJE3055TTU   mouser



Thanks dmp, when I have time, I will compare and update parts from my excel version BOM. Keep me posted on how your build goes and how it sounds.
iva dunit formerly known as canidoit

kato

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #295 on: September 22, 2010, 07:29:55 PM »
I got a request for my parts list... so here it is. If it is not here, it was either in the parts kit from Audio Maintenance, or I had it on the shelves already. Use at your own risk; I've only partially assembled mine.

I guess if we're all sharing parts lists, I've got this one with most of the parts sourced from mouser, complete with alternate sizes on the aml parts for the lead spacing nazis among us. Personally I'm more of a 'bend it to fit' kind of guy these days, but I remember when I thought it mattered on some level.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2010, 07:38:34 PM by kato »

canidoit

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #296 on: September 22, 2010, 07:45:39 PM »
I got a request for my parts list... so here it is. If it is not here, it was either in the parts kit from Audio Maintenance, or I had it on the shelves already. Use at your own risk; I've only partially assembled mine.

I guess if we're all sharing parts lists, I've got this one with most of the parts sourced from mouser, complete with alternate sizes on the aml parts for the lead spacing nazis among us. Personally I'm more of a 'bend it to fit' kind of guy these days, but I remember when I thought it mattered on some level.

Thanks Kato!
iva dunit formerly known as canidoit

MM1100

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #297 on: October 02, 2010, 11:15:48 PM »
I ended up using the knobs from http://classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=23_24_40

Here's the parts and cost:
Products
------------------------------------------------------
4 x Plain 5/8" Black Aluminum Knob 1/4" Shaft (1-62-2B-WTIW) = $22.48
3 x Plain 3/8" Black Aluminum Knob 1/8" Shaft (1-37-2A-WTIW) = $14.28
------------------------------------------------------
Sub-Total: $36.76
United States Postal Service (1 x 4oz) (First Class Mail: Estimated 1 - 5 Days): $2.23
Total: $38.99
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 11:19:08 PM by MM1100 »

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #298 on: October 03, 2010, 09:09:19 AM »
Nice.. they give it a vintage look.
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I reserve the right to not sell to idiots

Marcocet

Re: EQN build thread
« Reply #299 on: October 03, 2010, 10:55:21 PM »
So I finally got to finish my second batch but I haven't really gotten to troubleshoot them yet so a few are having problems. The only one I'm really confused by is motorboating like crazy. It's passing signal and working fine but it's oscillating like crazy even with RV4 all the way out. Also, RV5 causes the pitch to change. Any ideas?

Thanks again everyone, especially you Peter! I can't work on them again until next weekend but as soon as they're all in the desk I'll have some photos.

Oh: As a side note I think the faceplates are a little too wide. The new batch seems fine, but the ones from my original batch start to squish everything together. I'm gonna upgrade a few parts to what I used on the second batch next weekend as well so I'll file down the plates then.



 

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