Denyle Guitars

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2011, 02:44:28 PM »
Looks awesome. Put me down for one.


Winetree

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 12:50:05 AM »
I'd be in for one, maybe two depending on price.

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 01:33:08 AM »
I'm in for 1

mylesgm

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 05:19:59 AM »
I'll be in for one depending on price.  What will full kit option pricing be?
Check my work at www.mylesmumford.com

canidoit

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 06:28:44 AM »
Ruckus, are you able to check whether it has any issues if it was installed in a lunchbox next to the power supply and what are your thoughts about it being a mastering compressor?
iva dunit formerly known as canidoit

ruckus328

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 12:43:38 PM »
Wow guys, thanks.  I wasn't expecting that huge of a response.

First off I want to thank everyone that contributes to the forum for the vast knowlege it has given me, and also want to give a huuuuuuge thanks to Mr Harpo.  He's taught me so much over the last year which has allowed me to become very intimate with this circuit, and have the level of knowlege and understanding of it that I have today.  He's a great member of this community and my hat goes off to him.

I just want to clarify so there's no confusion.  You might notice there is no GSSL mode, that's because this is not a GSSL.  It's similar to a GSSL in that they are both based off the same original circuit so of course there's tons of overlap, but as mentioned as time as gone by I've become much more nowlegable of every aspect of the original circuit, so I was able to do all of the things here I always wanted to do as well as fix some issues.  I took a huge step back and went back to the roots, and the result is a design that more closely resembles a cross between the original console and fx384 than the GSSL, with some extra touches.

As far as pricing, I'm still waiting on some quotes, so I'll have something more set in stone later this week.   Bear in mind I cut no corners here, as mentioned grayhill switches, premium sealed pots, 10 VCA's in this thing, THAT input/output chips, machined aluminum knobs, top notch front panel/metalwork, etc. etc. etc.  And remember since it's a stereo unit everything is x's 2.  I did try to simplify and consolidate wherever possible though, and I gotta say it was damn easy to build.  A GSSL/SB4000 when all is said and done runs on average somewhere between $500-$600, granted that's with an enclosure, etc, but also with much cheaper lorlin switches/ pots and single VCA's amongst other things.  Not sure the price everyone's hoping for, but just to give you a guys some kind of ballpark figure I'm targeting somewhere around the $500 realm for a complete kit, which considering what you're getting is a very fair price.  I won't be able to give an exact number until the rest of the quoting is done, but it should be somewhere in that ballpark.
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ruckus328

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 12:48:55 PM »
Now for some pics (sorry, no fancy photoshopping lol):

Belly of the beast:



Into the mouth of madness:)

Serpent Audio™ - SB4000 & SA-3A Boards & Parts Kits / SB4001 Preorder / Send 'N Blend

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Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2011, 06:07:55 PM »
I'm in for a kit!

Ptownkid

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2011, 06:35:07 PM »
Holy effing hell Mike....sick!

mylesgm

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2011, 07:10:29 PM »
Well for around 500 I'll have 1 thanks.
Check my work at www.mylesmumford.com


ruckus328

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2011, 08:56:45 AM »
Ruckus, are you able to check whether it has any issues if it was installed in a lunchbox next to the power supply and what are your thoughts about it being a mastering compressor?

There have been no issues with it running in any of my lunchbox channels.  (Are there issues with some gear if used by the power supply?  I'm not famailiar with this)

The sound here is top notch, and it's extremely versatile and flexible with all of the additional functions, ranging from ultrea clean transparent to dirty in-your-face type sounds depending how you dial it in, don't really see any reason it can't be used for mastering applications, though I imagine you'd want to use it in conjunction with some kind of lookahead limiter to catch any stray transient peaks.
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Baltimore

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2011, 11:12:38 AM »
Wow! Looks great! I'm in for one!

okgb

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2011, 11:40:07 AM »
Yeah , some feat of engineering , nice work
GKB Audio / Greg Boboski

canidoit

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2011, 02:29:59 AM »
Ruckus, do you know when the kit will be available?

Also, how does the VU work? Can it display Output or Gain Reduction? I do not see a switch to select between the two.

Does this use a DC-DC converter and is it user selectable compatible with 51x racks?
iva dunit formerly known as canidoit

EmRR

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2011, 03:35:02 PM »
I'm tempted to play; tentatively count me in.  Hate to be tentative, but....call it 90%.  Hurricanes, floods, and hospital trips notwithstanding. 

Looks great, and your first efforts seem both well thought out and received. 

Will watch for updates on pricing and timing. 

I happen to have a proper Sifam 1 mA reverse scale meter that came off some AD&R limiters; be swell if it fit the same meter cutout. Dang it, first mod suggestion!!!!    Anyone see physical measurements of the ptownkid meter used here?  I don't find that info so far. 
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

Ptownkid

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2011, 04:00:57 PM »
Overall dims are 40x46, 27mm hole. Been meaning to get a tech doc up, but life has been kicking my butt lately.

MikeClev

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2011, 04:57:07 PM »
My DIY looks like something from the Flintstones compared to that. Awesome job!
Soldering burns: No pain, no gain.

If my opamps can't be discrete, I at least try to keep them discreet.

Ptownkid

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2011, 04:59:14 PM »
Thanks,  what's the depth behind the panel?   Looks critical here.

about 31mm

EmRR

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2011, 05:03:41 PM »
Overall dims are 40x46, 27mm hole. about 31mm deep behind panel.

Thanks.

Looks like mine are 42x48.5, 39mm hole, 24mm deep body behind panel, 26mm centers on connectors.  Sounds like no chance they'd be compatible. 

Problems with units next to PSU tend to involve audio transformers.

Biggest problems with 500 series as mastering device would be tiny knobs giving imprecise adjustment, and lack of recall.  You really want wide diameter knobs on any fully adjustable pots for improved fine tuning and logging ability, and 500 won't ever deliver that.   No reason 500 can't deliver on sonics. 


Aside:  this looks similar.

http://www.altamodaaudio.com/hippo.html
« Last Edit: August 04, 2011, 10:10:19 AM by emrr »
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

Peterson Goodwyn

Re: SB4001 - 500 Series Stereo Buss Compressor
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2011, 05:10:52 PM »
Looks amazing! I will be disappointed if it doesn't make my mixes sound like a wall of speakers in soft focus. ;)


 

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