Ethan

Black Market <--> Free Market
« on: January 26, 2012, 04:04:51 PM »
The Free Market has been created to facilitate non-commercial, non-profit Group Buys and Giveaways. I apologize if this has been a neglected grey area in the past.

The Black Market is now an auction based system (this has been in development for a while) to be used for any Buy/Sell transactions. The BM is directly tied into a Feedback System so that members can now give each other good/bad feedback after a transaction. The hope is that over time the reliability of transactions will improve and we can build greater trust between members.

I hope this helps. There's still a lot of work to be done, but I think I need a beer and a nap first.  :-[
I am just the Web Geek here.


EmRR

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 05:23:30 PM »
Ouch, all my BM listings just dissappeared.  Hope I still have the copy somewhere!   

I do think reorganization is needed.  Go have that beer. 
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

pucho812

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 05:52:21 PM »
Ethan, where do you find the time? Although this does not really effect me, thanks for everything.
You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is.

Ethan

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 06:37:15 PM »
Ouch, all my BM listings just dissappeared.  Hope I still have the copy somewhere!
Sorry about that! It wasn't my intention to remove active BM threads. I was trying to clear out the older/expired threads. I figured everything beyond the 10th page would be long expired by now.
I am just the Web Geek here.

Ethan

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 06:38:39 PM »
Ethan, where do you find the time? Although this does not really effect me, thanks for everything.
Thanks! I've given up on REM sleep. I'm always caffeinated and jittery. :o
I am just the Web Geek here.

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 11:28:32 PM »
why didn't you just get rid of the white market instead? That's what started all the problems, not the other way around.

EmRR

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 09:05:52 AM »
Ouch, all my BM listings just dissappeared.  Hope I still have the copy somewhere!
Sorry about that! It wasn't my intention to remove active BM threads. I was trying to clear out the older/expired threads. I figured everything beyond the 10th page would be long expired by now.

No worries.  I've found the things I sell here take 1-2 years to move on average.  They'd sell fast and higher on ebay, but I don't want to place there.
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

pucho812

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 01:07:07 PM »

Thanks! I've given up on REM sleep. I'm always caffeinated and jittery. :o


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You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is.

sr1200

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 03:17:51 PM »
Cool deal, ethan if you ever need a hand with stuff let me know.  Im a web dev by day.  Gear junkie by night.
MEI Studio - Long Island, NY: http://www.meirecords.com

Ethan

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 03:22:15 PM »
Cool deal, ethan if you ever need a hand with stuff let me know.  Im a web dev by day.  Gear junkie by night.
Thanks!  I'm a server admin, desperately trying to improve my coding chops.
I am just the Web Geek here.


gemini86

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 03:29:05 PM »
When will the free market guidelines be updated?
- Rodney

"...you better call Kenny Loggins, 'cause you're in the danger zone."

sr1200

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 03:51:23 PM »
So i put up my listing in the new BM (lol... bm) i uploaded the picture, then tried to edit the caption and got an error "you are not allowed to administer the Black Market"... dunno if thats supposed to happen but i figured id let ya know. :) Otherwise, great job, easy to use, had it up in less than 5 min!  Ebay should take a note...
MEI Studio - Long Island, NY: http://www.meirecords.com

gemini86

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 04:00:17 PM »
questions on the BM... (hehehe) Can one set terms for who can bid?(minimum post count) Are there "buy it now" style listings? Can you end an auction early if you are also selling locally?
- Rodney

"...you better call Kenny Loggins, 'cause you're in the danger zone."

Ethan

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 04:06:30 PM »
@gemini: RE: Guidelines, a day or two.  I've been swamped trying to work on several things simultaneously.

@sr1200: Thanks! It's still a work in progress, working out the kinks. PM me what you'd like the caption to be and I'll change it for you.

@gemini: As for bidding terms, not quite yet.  Yes to Buy-it-Now.  You can end an auction early if it has no bids.
I am just the Web Geek here.

sr1200

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 06:21:06 PM »
no need to change the caption... i was just being a programmer looking for buggy things and bumped into this. ;-)
MEI Studio - Long Island, NY: http://www.meirecords.com

EmRR

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2012, 05:31:45 AM »
Fee question:  $1 per 7 days?  If so, food for thought:  my last several sales here took between one and two years to find buyers.   The 2 year sale specifically was a $400 item, would that mean it would now cost $104 in fees?
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

Jean Clochet

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Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2012, 05:58:00 AM »
would that mean it would now cost $104 in fees?

Ouch!  Maybe some kind of a free re-listing if it doesn't sell (as there is on Ebay) would be good.
John Roberts:  I am generally not enthusiastic about the project with or without trimpots...

EmRR

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 06:23:50 AM »
I may be misinterpreting; we don't have a substantial FAQ and I haven't tried listing anything yet.   If it's correct, I'd do better going back to ebay, which I loathe.  These same items would sell right away there, and probably for more, I just hate the place.  I really detest any system that forces use of paypal as well, but I understand the merchant perspective that suggests it's a necessary evil to be tolerated. 

Again, questions from me, not comments on known facts yet.  I know you can't make everyone happy. 
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

Ethan

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 09:04:56 AM »
Doug,

You brought up some valid points. I will change this so that users can decide how many days to run the listings. It's a work in progress...
I am just the Web Geek here.

gemini86

Re: Black Market <--> Free Market
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2012, 01:13:09 PM »
How does finalizing a sale work?

Are we forced to use paypal? or if somebody has dwolla (not likely) or amazon checkout, or google wallet... etc. I really do just hate paypal (but agree it's a necessary evil until people read up on dwolla and learn that if they can trust paypal (you shouldn't) they can trust dwolla)
- Rodney

"...you better call Kenny Loggins, 'cause you're in the danger zone."


 

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