1176's: Can we make them... even FASTER?

I've been recording drums with my EZ1290 pres and my 2 mnats Rev A 1176's  this week-end  8). Good drums, good mikes, good pres/comps/converters and especially great drummer: it sounded amazing!!
I like my drums squashed, I like my snares flat, 'à la Sardy'! 1176 are fast, if not the fastest, but it seems I always have to saturate my overheads post-comp to get rid of those damn transients poking through the mix... I'm okay with that, I love saturation, but I'm still wondering if there is not a way to make those 1176 EVEN faster, like "you shall not pass" fast ! Any ideas?


BTW: I bounced some drums from this week-end, listen to them here:
https://soundcloud.com/tentacledrecords/drums
Kick is AKG D12>EZ1290>1176 (medium attack and fast release,4:1, about 4 db of GR, slight cut at 350Hz), mono overhead is Coles 4038>EZ1290>1176 (fastest attack and release, 12:1, about 5 db of GR, slight shelf at 10KHz), into my brand new Antelope Orion32 et voilà!!
Drums were Tama Starclassic 26"x16" kick and 16"x16" tom, and a 70's 6,5" Ludwig Black Beauty !

sounds great!

useme2305 said:

sounds great!

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Thank you!!!

but I'm still wondering if there is not a way to make those 1176 EVEN faster, like "you shall not pass" fast ! Any ideas?

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make C27 (220nF) smaller

Jakob E.

gyraf said:

make C27 (220nF) smaller

Jakob E.

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Thank you Jakob, I will try that! What should be a good value to start with, and how far could I go?

Depends on your taste - I find the 1176 attack quite too fast at it's slowest already

Half the value of C27 for halving time constants

Jakob E.

gyraf said:

Depends on your taste - I find the 1176 attack quite too fast at it's slowest already

Half the value of C27 for halving time constants

Jakob E.

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So if halving C27 halves response times, what trickery they use in the 1176AE to get 10ms? They just put a bigger capacitor on the switch?