cyrano

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1020 on: December 20, 2018, 01:16:34 PM »
I always thought "mules" were used to carry illegal drugs across national borders, often secreted in their alimentary canal.

That's what we call them in Europe. Don't really know if drug traffickers are called the same here.

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I see lots of spam offers for free money (I seem to win  one lottery that I didn't enter every few months  ::) ), but I never heard of anybody actually profiting from such fraud, other than the spammers..  There are always miscreants working angles that provide opportunities to steal.

I know a couple of victims. Poor enough to fall for this kind of scam. And, yes, they get money. Once, twice...

That leads to them becoming recruiters. Their friends will notice them having money all of a sudden. And they too will fall for it.

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If something sounds too good to be true...it is. Hold you hand over your wallet and back away.

They're not taking money from you. That's the part that turns a lot of people onto it. Until the victims get a visit from the fraud sqaud, inquiring how they hacked into a few dozen shops, or a few hundred bank accounts or how they sold iphones that never were delivered. But that takes at least six months. It even might never happen if they're lucky.

One case I encountered, was a very young and not so bright couple in Holland. They got a free online lingerie shop, on the condition they'd also sell iphones via another shop. The lingerie even was real, with a real KvK number, but didn't sell much for lack of promotion. The iphones sold by the hundreds, but were never delivered.

A lynching mob was already being formed. So they had to move quickly. Fortunately, I could convince them to contact the police before the fraud squad arrived.

Police couldn't do a thing, even when they knew who was behind it. The gang operates out of Pakistan, with real and dummy companies all over Europe. It's just too costly to keep following them, as they operate internationally. Starting a new, real company costs less than 500 € and is fast these days, especially in the UK...

KBC knows very well they're being used. They just don't care about the victims. At least, some other banks don't want that kind of scam operators amongst their customers.
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?


[silent:arts]

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1021 on: December 21, 2018, 01:07:10 PM »
Got a letter from Barclaycard Hamburg today:
they moved all business, contracts & money from Barclays Bank PCL to Barclays Bank Ireland PLC because of Brexit.

tony hunt

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1022 on: December 22, 2018, 04:11:53 AM »
Got a letter from Barclaycard Hamburg today:
they moved all business, contracts & money from Barclays Bank PCL to Barclays Bank Ireland PLC because of Brexit.
I had a similar letter from Amex too. If I recall correctly they are moving to Paris.

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1023 on: December 22, 2018, 07:40:29 AM »
Things are a bit funny here , Prime minister condemns the actions of the gang in balaclavas that  stormed the property, and kicked  a few peoples heads in .
Yet not one single word has he said about the actions of KBC ,typical arse licking behaviour that weve come to expect from big money and our politicians here in Ireland  . The head of KBC  needs to be brought into a room and asked 'WTF were you trying to do ,start WW f**king 3 '
Im not a customer of KBC ,but if I was I would have shut the account down on the spot , Id imagine  many Irish people will be doing the same . Did KBC want to kill off its Irish business , thats the only reason I can see for their actions .
Looks like KBC are  willing and able  to launder the proceeds of slavery from poorer places in the world also , but isnt that what banking is all about at the end of the day . 

ruffrecords

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1024 on: January 14, 2019, 05:41:06 AM »
Today is crunch day for Brexit. No way to call which way it will go.

On the one hand politicians want to show they are in charge, on the other they fear a general election. I have a feeling there will be a lot of abstentions.

Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

DaveP

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1025 on: January 14, 2019, 07:31:48 AM »
I think its tomorrow

DaveP
Soundcloud: Delayed Action.

rob_gould

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1026 on: January 14, 2019, 08:33:13 AM »
Yes, tomorrow I believe.

If May's deal is voted down, I see an article 50 extension on the horizon.

ruffrecords

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1027 on: January 14, 2019, 12:13:31 PM »
I meant today is crunch day because tomorrow they will vote. As the Chinese curse goes "we live in interesting times"

Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

JohnRoberts

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1028 on: January 14, 2019, 04:09:57 PM »
Good luck I hope it turns out well...

JR
John Roberts
http://circularscience.com
Tune it, or don't play it...

abbey road d enfer

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1029 on: January 14, 2019, 05:08:23 PM »
Good luck I hope it turns out well...

JR
The problem is nobody agrees on what turning out well is...
Who's right or wrong is irrelevant. What matters is what's right or wrong.
"The important thing is not to convince, but to give pause for thought." (B. Werber)
Star ground is for electricians.


JohnRoberts

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1030 on: January 14, 2019, 05:38:40 PM »
The problem is nobody agrees on what turning out well is...
At best a majority of voters will approve of the outcome but the odds of that seem low, too.

Good luck

JR
John Roberts
http://circularscience.com
Tune it, or don't play it...

abbey road d enfer

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1031 on: January 14, 2019, 06:19:02 PM »
At best a majority of voters will approve of the outcome but the odds of that seem low, too.

Good luck

JR
Yes, it looks like the outcome, whatever it is,  is going to disappoint a majority.
Who's right or wrong is irrelevant. What matters is what's right or wrong.
"The important thing is not to convince, but to give pause for thought." (B. Werber)
Star ground is for electricians.

[silent:arts]

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1032 on: January 15, 2019, 03:09:46 PM »
432 : 202 against the deal

EmRR

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1033 on: January 15, 2019, 03:54:46 PM »
I really feel for all you small business folk in the UK.  This is intolerable. 
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 06:23:05 PM by EmRR »
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

abbey road d enfer

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1034 on: January 15, 2019, 05:54:52 PM »
I really feel for all you small business folk in the UK.  The is intolerable.
Who cares for small businesses? Somebody's gonna make a pile of dough; the sterling pound is up... There's no emoticon that carries the grief I feel for citizens betrayed by their politicians.
Who's right or wrong is irrelevant. What matters is what's right or wrong.
"The important thing is not to convince, but to give pause for thought." (B. Werber)
Star ground is for electricians.

EmRR

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1035 on: January 15, 2019, 06:22:48 PM »
Who cares for small businesses? Somebody's gonna make a pile of dough; the sterling pound is up... There's no emoticon that carries the grief I feel for citizens betrayed by their politicians.

Our many small business members here on this forum......disgruntled citizens they are too, goes without saying. 
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

ruffrecords

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1036 on: January 15, 2019, 07:00:37 PM »
Who cares for small businesses? Somebody's gonna make a pile of dough; the sterling pound is up... There's no emoticon that carries the grief I feel for citizens betrayed by their politicians.

That is certainly the feeling in our household. A few years back it was the politician's expenses scandal, now it is completely ignoring the wishes of the people just like the bureaucrats in the EU. They should all be shot.

Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

Script

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1037 on: January 15, 2019, 09:32:21 PM »
Navigating towards a second referendum? And have the people vote on:

'May deal' Brexit  versus  'No deal' Brexit ?

abbey road d enfer

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1038 on: Today at 01:09:32 AM »
Navigating towards a second referendum? And have the people vote on:

'May deal' Brexit  versus  'No deal' Brexit ?
I have a feeling the goose is cooked...?
Who's right or wrong is irrelevant. What matters is what's right or wrong.
"The important thing is not to convince, but to give pause for thought." (B. Werber)
Star ground is for electricians.

abbey road d enfer

Re: Brexit
« Reply #1039 on: Today at 01:10:32 AM »
Our many small business members here on this forum......disgruntled citizens they are too, goes without saying.
Indeed. I was trying to be sarcastic.  :(
Who's right or wrong is irrelevant. What matters is what's right or wrong.
"The important thing is not to convince, but to give pause for thought." (B. Werber)
Star ground is for electricians.