california

pucho812 · Mar 3, 2018

bottom of list. I am not surprised. as things get more expensive and no end in sight to conditions causing it I wonder how long it will continue.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/01/california-ranks-last-quality-life-new-report/384853002/

JohnRoberts · Mar 4, 2018

Unusual for MS to not be bottom of any "state" ranking...

It often depends on who made the list and what points they are trying to make.

JR

pucho812 · Mar 4, 2018

The report, released Tuesday, ranks states based on a healthy environment and a sense of community. It takes into account each state's urban air quality, pollution and voter participation, among other measures.
Californians scored poorly in part because they’re simply insufferable, U.S. News suggested.
“In addition to a healthy environment, a person’s quality of life is largely a result of their interactions with those around them,” the magazine wrote in a blurb accompanying the results.

One way to measure quality life is whether residents can even afford to have a roof over their heads, and by that standard, California is failing. "

ruairioflaherty · Mar 4, 2018

I won't be booking a ticket out of here anytime soon..

tands · Mar 4, 2018

You could try Oklahoma.

john12ax7 · Mar 4, 2018

I've considered leaving due to housing and traffic. But where to go? The places I like all tend to be equally expensive.

JohnRoberts · Mar 5, 2018

john12ax7 said:
I've considered leaving due to housing and traffic. But where to go? The places I like all tend to be equally expensive.

A lot of people like TX, with cities like Austin having a vibrant music scene but it is getting more expensive than it was.

If you want dirt cheap, move to MS, but all you get for that is cheap dirt. 8)

JR

pucho812 · Mar 5, 2018

Austin is becoming a mini California. Many folks of CA are moving there and turning it slowly into CA. they fail to understand the policies they allowed in CA are what caused them to need or want to leave.

JohnRoberts · Mar 5, 2018

It will take more californians than Austin can hold to change the state of TX significantly while Austin is already left of the rest of TX, probably why it is so attractive to ex-Californicans.

I forgot to mention they have decent micro-brews there too...

JR

fazer · Mar 5, 2018

Austin was the most fun music town I’ve been to.

john12ax7 · Mar 5, 2018

Austin is cool, but yes getting expensive too. Californians moving there are a driving factor in the prices, which has created somewhat of a backlash.

Nashville is another spot I've considered, but again there prices also dramatically up.

I wonder how California can survive long term when the middle class can't afford housing.

pucho812 · Mar 5, 2018

john12ax7 said:
Austin is cool, but yes getting expensive too. Californians moving there are a driving factor in the prices, which has created somewhat of a backlash.

Nashville is another spot I've considered, but again there prices also dramatically up.

I wonder how California can survive long term when the middle class can't afford housing.

Another spot california is moving to, Nashville. At what point will it all implode?

iampoor1 · Mar 5, 2018

pucho812 said:
Another spot california is moving to, Nashville. At what point will it all implode?

At what point will the music industry move to new cities is what Im wondering!

abbey road d enfer · Mar 6, 2018

john12ax7 said:
Nashville is another spot I've considered, but again there prices also dramatically up.

Come to New Orleans!

pucho812 · Mar 6, 2018

iampoor1 said:
At what point will the music industry move to new cities is what Im wondering!

Plenty of music and scenes in a lot of cities, but how many are paying enough to earn a living.

abbey road d enfer · Mar 6, 2018

pucho812 said:
Plenty of music and scenes in a lot of cities, but how many are paying enough to earn a living.

Music is free, you have it everywhere, even when you don't want it, why would anyone pay for it?...

L´Andratté · Mar 6, 2018

Yes, sometimes I´d pay for no music alright :'(

JohnRoberts · Mar 6, 2018

abbey road d enfer said:
Come to New Orleans!

I used to run in a 10k race (crescent city classic) almost every year with 30k+ crazy runners and bands/jambalaya/beer trucks at the finish... Since my knee squashed my running, and Katrina smashed the region, I haven't visited but seriously considered relocating there (still am).

A lot of people who left after Katrina, never returned but they didn't have much to return to. There was (is) some serious poverty in some poor districts of the city.

Great food and good music if you don't mind living below sea level.

JR

pucho812 · Mar 6, 2018

abbey road d enfer said:
Music is free, you have it everywhere, even when you don't want it, why would anyone pay for it?...

true. But I was referring to music related jobs like sound man, tech, etc.

abbey road d enfer · Mar 6, 2018

JohnRoberts said:
Katrina smashed the region,

That's what I thought, till I met in 2010 a couple of newlyweds in NY that said they were going to have their honeymoon in NOLA, who reassured me about the state of the city. I've been a visitor every year since, and now a temporary resident since 3 years.

I haven't visited but seriously considered relocating there (still am).

Real estate prices have started to go up seriously compared to last year, but still there are very nice places at prices we can only dream of in Europe.

A lot of people who left after Katrina, never returned but they didn't have much to return to.

Well their houses have been closed, declared unsafe, which is hugely debatable; it's clear "someone" wanted to get rid of those poor black neighbourhoods. South of Tremé is becoming fashionable now, with the new tram line.

There was (is) some serious poverty in some poor districts of the city.

Yes, there still is...

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