Re: Post music here
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2018, 06:54:24 PM »
Some great tunes here from BonnieRait and a few friends ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GALqVg3biE

for anyone who doesnt do links but want to listen ,its the 1972 ultrasonics studio session with Lowell George ,John Hammond and Freebo
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Squeaky

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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2018, 02:46:41 AM »
Davy Graham: this man inspired a lot of people once upon a time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYABfZ7HMhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWeejHJxGjs

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2018, 04:04:06 AM »
Oh thats interesting alright , I hadnt heard of Davey before ,Yeah that first tune was reconfigured by Jimmy page later on ,I had always presumed it was a Page composition. Was Davey a Scott ? looks like the first video might be in Glasgow  or something . Anyway thanks for those links ,he seems to have a lovely way of delving into a completely different arabic scales and being able to bring it back to the more familiar after again effortlessly ,I'll have to check out more of the bold Davey boys stuff.

Here an interpretation of the same tune by Rory Gallagher ,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-8FD6ODJSo, Il love that baroque,slightly medievil sound with the moorish influence ,its really evocative .

Squeaky

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2018, 05:21:45 AM »
Oops, apologies, I got his name wrong. It seems that Davey's father was a Scotsman (Gaelic teacher). Davey was attributed with the DADGAD tuning, which I suppose every aspiring folk guitarist has played around with. I certainly indulged myself in my earlier years. I also love that kind of folk guitar music that morphs in and out of those Moorish scales. Your Baroque and Arabic comments reminded me of these:

Alonzo Mudarra - Fantasia X (I love the end movement of the piece - a little dissonant and expressive at great pace)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXVUAHZcr8

I believe it was originally played on the vihuela (I think this is technically a Renaissance piece).

Paco Pena - Amanercer Arabe (Zambra Mora)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNfwInxcqoo

The above Pena clip is not exactly the same as the CD version he recorded (that I know well) but I suppose that is part of the beauty of music like this that is played with a certain amount of libre. I used to play (an interpretation of) the CD version of this with a dropped D tuning (no capo). I kind of liked it a bit deeper. Extra finger stretch required though. I was proud of myself (at the time) as I worked it all out (well most of it) from the CD recording (no youtube videos 20 years ago).

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2018, 07:12:17 AM »
Heres an Italian guy playing an 'O Carolan' piece on the bazouki ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYIWzWwpzAQ

Theres a slightly Spanish influence in O Carolans music ,which stands to reason as there was strong connections between Spain, France and Ireland during the darker days of empire here.
 I have a wonderfull version of this song recorded , played by a good friend and very tallented musician. The chorus/harmonise on the decays of the mandolin and  bazouki strings sounds like angels singing ,I really must dig out some stuff Ive recorded myself and post it here. Oh incidently I might as well add , Im no more than three chord trick man on guitar ,the engineering side is my real passion . I do love that blend of folk acoustic strings and rock , it all became a bit turgid later on in the 80's ,but the big rock ballad is in itself maybe the most timeless popular music genre and its still very much a formula that works. Adele made a packet from anthemic rock ballads.

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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2018, 08:14:11 AM »
I found this Paco piece ,and I just had to post it ,its like a whole band playing ,percussion ,bass end and lead instrument and acompanyment ,awesome stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmps3Cc-5_0

Almoraima live 1976 uk tv

Squeaky

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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2018, 10:49:30 PM »
Thanks for the "O Carolan" link, I really enjoyed that and I think the guy deserves more that 41 views.

The link you posted sent me to  Paco de Lucia playing a Bulerias, which was fine as I love a good Bulerias (and Paco de Lucia is a very fine guitarist).

Rock ballads can be great but you can also have too much of a good thing. The rock epic takes it once step further. Side one of "Houses" gives you one of each.

Rock ballads are a bit like craft beer, you have a great independent brand established with passion, genuine hand-crafting and  top quality ingredients. And then there is the sell out to the beer giant who implements artisan-styled marketing with a mass production backing. I think I had some sort of point there somewhere.

L´Andratté

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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2018, 06:20:47 AM »
Hey Squeaky, cool stuff!

How about this one?
(Derek Gripper, Jarabi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSIGLpK9aQI

Strictly amateur since 1973...

The Kid

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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2018, 05:58:50 PM »
My band live, heavily processed with Gyraf G3 and G10 compressors: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClO-zZw12FDgmkaNfoY-Lyw

Nice job, that's very cool!  I don't see a physical accordion, is that just synth?  I started out on keyboards as a kid, the funny thing is,  even though I play by ear, I learned the key signatures automatically because of the way the chords are laid out on the accordion.  (That was years later, when I taught myself theory.)  Crazy. 

All those people starting on page 2, from Bonnie down to Paco are amazing, thanks for posting!  Last year, I was starting to teach myself classical.  (Also trying to teach myself 5 string banjo.  Trying to get used to the high drone string, after years of the low E on guitar is the most difficult, for me.!)

Anyway, came across this dude, just really thought it was amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYOlKn77d3Q

Classical and 5 string banjo aren't really too much different, from a fingerstyle point of view.  One thing I know, though, I need to get a real practice classical guitar, because the acoustic I have the action is WAY too high (and non-adjustable, at least easily).  Works ok on my LP, but yeah, not quite the same. . .  (I learned to play on a real Stella, the same the old blues guys had, where the action was like barbed wire, so high up, you had grooves worn in your fingertips!!  When I got my first real electric, '72 LP signature, it was like butter!!) :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frWKvHUMGII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERrnE5P6U88


This is in my current playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2O5DD5VRew


2 songs where bagpipes actually work in a rock setting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IocRCDWB5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqBgh8Hus6g



Still my favorite version of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh3nO6-V_A




This is very cool, just found it while looking up Rocky Top:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVDzbGsAXHw



Lou Ferrigno update:

https://www.internetmarketinginc.com/blog/is-lou-ferrigno-the-founder-of-dos-equis/   :D

I know enough to be dangerous

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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2018, 10:12:52 PM »
I said seeing as there was banjo I might as well post Gerry 'Banjo' O Connor , this gives a good insight on the irish banjo style ,just plec ,no claw/hook with the metal fingertips .Just at the end of this tune he throws in a string bend which is a really unsual sound to hear from a banjo , I did see Gerry live at the oireachtas one year playing a blues session on the banjo ,the sounds the guy made were unreal.

I guessed 'long way to the top'  would figure in your bagpipe rock selection alright , its a pretty difficult instrument to fit in with anything else tuning wise ,technically you only have 8 notes and one hole underneath that shifts the rest ,then three drones . In the hands of a skilled piper though notes can be bent by a combination of breath , bag  action and  finger movement so it can be a bit more versatile than you would think . Heres Angus and the boys playing a short piece which must have been inspired by the bagpipes on guitars , cool sound .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASJy3c4ACiU

Not sure what to make of the Lou thing you posted ,but at least he's got rid of the supermullet.
 


boji

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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2018, 11:39:07 PM »
Quote
Heres an Italian guy playing an 'O Carolan' piece on the bazouki

Ahh the bazouki, the poor man's mandocello. =P    One day I'll save for a prewar gibson.

Edit: ok fine more octave mando than cello. But I djent my bazouk.   >.<
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boji

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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2018, 12:00:17 AM »
These hacks really need more autotune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFycqnOpifQ

Squeaky

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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2018, 01:51:13 AM »
Hey Squeaky, cool stuff!

How about this one?
(Derek Gripper, Jarabi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSIGLpK9aQI



Thanks very much for that L'Andratté, I'd never heard of Derek Gripper before. Wow, he can play! Going his own direction as well. If he is doing something that John Williams thought impossible then he really is heading towards the outer stratosphere (Williams is most certainly a technical master although one could criticise his touch if one dared to). All of the most proficient finger picking guitarists can bring out those multiple voices making it sound like there is two or even three guitars playing at once. I like the way that Gripper sings along with the melody at times.

The interpretive approach brought back to mind the guitar interpretation of Astor Piazzolla tango pieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7tpiU37Wug

Also, I was lucky enough to see this guy in concert before he unfortunately passed. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkX7Q2J7k48

The Kid

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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2018, 05:53:56 PM »
I said seeing as there was banjo I might as well post Gerry 'Banjo' O Connor , this gives a good insight on the irish banjo style ,just plec ,no claw/hook with the metal fingertips .Just at the end of this tune he throws in a string bend which is a really unsual sound to hear from a banjo , I did see Gerry live at the oireachtas one year playing a blues session on the banjo ,the sounds the guy made were unreal.

I guessed 'long way to the top'  would figure in your bagpipe rock selection alright , its a pretty difficult instrument to fit in with anything else tuning wise ,technically you only have 8 notes and one hole underneath that shifts the rest ,then three drones . In the hands of a skilled piper though notes can be bent by a combination of breath , bag  action and  finger movement so it can be a bit more versatile than you would think . Heres Angus and the boys playing a short piece which must have been inspired by the bagpipes on guitars , cool sound .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASJy3c4ACiU

Not sure what to make of the Lou thing you posted ,but at least he's got rid of the supermullet.

Lol, sorry about the Lou thing, couldn't resist!  They show this weird commercial on tv for Dos Equis beer, and at the end, it says their founder was Lou Ferrigno!  You know how it is, evidently, people were searching online to see if it was true!  (The same ad also shows Abe Lincoln with a bottle of beer under his hat!) 

AC/DC, love it, never get enough of that!  Since they're from Scotland, originally, I can totally see the bagpipe influence.

I don't see the Gerry 'Banjo' O Connor post?  I did a quick search, though, found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk_9Uo2eIpo

That's really cool.  Plus it's just a 4 string.  Interesting part is the alternate picking, and he's not using his other fingers, as you would on a 5 string.


I'm definitely more comfortable with alternate picking than the   P -A-M- I   thing, although the more you practice the easier it does get!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BRNwkVOr1E

Combining the two can give some amazing possibilities.  As he says in this video, he doesn't do classical, however,  the technique seems to be an altered form of P A M I, kicked up a few notches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xijtHU5uaW4

I've been trying to use the metal fingerpicks with my banjo, it does help, especially without long fingernails!
I know enough to be dangerous

The Kid

I know enough to be dangerous

Re: Post music here
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2018, 10:04:39 AM »
Lots of great bands waiting to be rediscovered from the Prog rock era ,
heres a real favorite of mine ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiy5K81qvbg

Steve Hillage later went solo ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS_a8xhL7Dw

And of course Frank deserves a mention ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrmtAQvmfN8

The Kid

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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2018, 06:14:30 PM »
Lots of great bands waiting to be rediscovered from the Prog rock era ,
heres a real favorite of mine ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiy5K81qvbg

Steve Hillage later went solo ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS_a8xhL7Dw

And of course Frank deserves a mention ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrmtAQvmfN8


Yes, yes, awesome! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVf7SG1-DGg

Frank, I remember listening to "you can't do that on stage anymore" volume 1, freakin' hilarious, and amazing musicians, at the same time.  (quote: "You puked on stage?")  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZY5biEchxk&list=PLCePD6l6lAO2dcihILEJ85H2UvbXQ1CGz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MewcnFl_6Y



I came across something a while ago that said his kids aren't getting along right now:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/inside-the-zappa-family-feud-w431684




That reminds me of some really off the wall hilarious stuff on Conan years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji52DVnC5JI

I was trying to find the one where Ahmet sings "It's Not Unusual" by Tom Jones, but this is just as wacky! 8)
I know enough to be dangerous

The Kid

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« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2018, 04:46:09 PM »
Very rarely buy new music (meaning this century) mostly 'cuz of reasons in that other thread.   But, I was thinking of the newest stuff I've actually bought, and here's one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-MQds_fFs 

(new to me, but yeah, like 10 years old, lol!)  I didn't seek it out, I had the tv on, and this dude was on late night (Leno) and I heard the slide guitar and thought WTF!! 

And, again, here's another I discovered on late night tv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkoDR-D9moE

That album also has the added feature of the whole Toe Rag studio thing. 

Listening to this now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gozCnbfY-xM

I love to play that one live, with all the tempo changes, and just killer riffs, but not necessarily a good dance song!!  8)

Hmmm, just remembered, the newest album I got was actually this one, 2014:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klrYlnkImHA

And that's one of those very few bands I buy the album without hearing a single note; like ZZ Top, they never disappoint!!
I know enough to be dangerous

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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2018, 08:45:45 AM »
Hi Kid,
Yeah I was aware of Franks 'playing the bicycle' TV performance alright, what a bellend the tv show host was though, a condesending twat, that you'd wanna punch.
One interesting thing about Franks life was he grew up with his family in the suroundings of Edgewood Arsenal, the primary chemical and biological weapons facillity in the US. The whole family were kitted out biological/chemical protection equipment ,such as gas masks ,in case the 'gas-gas-gas' alert went out .
There was an interview with Frank of the subject of education on a radio show I found on youtube one time ,was a woman show host .Frank took a big dump all over what he termed the 'misseducational' system ,and outlined his own philosophy on home schooling his boys . To be honest in alot of his interviews Frank talked psychobabble ,but the more serious interviews he did are well worth rooting out for a listen .

There was another interesting thing I read about Frank in terms of radiological experiments which were common enough in many places probably from the 50's onwards. It involved the use of radium coated rods being inserted into the noses of children in an attempt to cure the 'green slimey snot' that children seem to get .It was something that was widespread not only in the states ,but all over . Not surprigingly all data/records of people treated with this ,which was into the millions ,vanished without trace ,no doubt to save the potential for a large scale class action lawsuit on behalf of the people who these trials were conducted on . Id be very surprised if the same exact thing wasnt happening in the state and church run institutions of Ireland also . As usual when the lid is blown on such unethical testing ,the military industrial complex men behind it and there lawyers simple close one file and open another somewhere else . The big senate comittee enquiries of the late 70's in the US made it much more difficult to conduct such testing in the USA, but the tech was simply farmed out to foriegn soil ,same methodology.

Scuse the rant there ,but hopefully its in the general spirit and direction of the convo here in brewery.

Heres another great live radio session ,
not a million miles from the Bonnie Rait thing I posted ,
but more of a gospel vibe to it ,featuring the one and only Duane Allman on slide trombone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IcT_UctcDM
Delaney and Bonnie ,live at A&R studios '71 

The Kid

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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2018, 04:46:21 PM »
That's definitely cool; "You've heard of a mallard?  This is a ballard"  lol.  Nice.   Also don't hear too many concerts sponsored by sewing machine companies, at least not recently. 

I didn't know all that about Frank, but it does explain a lot.   Just shows ya, EVERYBODY has a story!!  (Anybody who would name a kid Moon Unit must have some serious baggage!)

I wouldn't worry about the rant so much, sometimes we just get on a path and go, lol.  I'm trying to just post songs I like, but inevitably, discussions will probably come up, just the nature of "the story behind the music", I guess.

And now, back to the music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kx9o1idWrE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI6C7L66zq8


I'm not really a huge "country music" fan, at least not modern, mostly 'cuz it's basically not country, it's trying to be 70s/80s rock.  My favorite country stuff is the old stuff like Johnny Cash (his stuff is actually the first thing I played when learning guitar, along with CCR) and Hank Williams, well, all those traditional guys.  Anyway, I was surprised to find these guys, still taking a crack at it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppRvLqgS2BY



and:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPyPT7fb0-Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N1iwQxiHrs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ZIf2H9S0E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=952h-AJ3Bcg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRDwb7TLBJM


As green as a leaf in a tea cup. . . :D
I know enough to be dangerous


 

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