RuudNL

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #100 on: August 29, 2018, 02:39:13 PM »
how are the capsules then compared to the pronomic ones? Are they all the same?
The 'old' Pronomic capsules had a pronounced HF peak. (~ 5 dB @ 7/8 KHz.)
The MP capsules are the same as the 'new' Pronomic capsules and the 'Banzai' ones, as far as I have heard and measured.
These capsules have a pretty 'flat' frequency response and sound better than the 'old' Pronomic ones.
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jarvis

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #101 on: August 29, 2018, 03:47:17 PM »
Great, thanks for the info!

craigmorris74

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #102 on: August 29, 2018, 05:18:40 PM »
I tried to order the micparts  version yesterday, but got an email stating they were like the MAP capsules, not the ones pictured, so I got a refund.

Anyone know where I can get the Banzai/Pronomic type capsule in the US?  Or does anyone have an extra they'd like to sell? 

Also, I'd be interested in one of those transformerless km84 boards, homero, if you had more.

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2018, 01:34:33 AM »
Anyone have one of the newer Pronomic ones they'd sell? Or be willing to pick one up for me? I'll pay you obviously, Paypal preferred. Located in Ontario, Canada.

The Mic-Parts capsule with the mesh or whatever, not the Banzai like one, has anyone compared it to the new Pronomic/Banzai ones?
« Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 01:48:05 AM by Icantthinkofaname »

RuudNL

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2018, 05:11:28 AM »
Why don't you ask a forum member in Europe to order a Pronomic SCM-1 for you, let him calculate the shipping costs to Canada, pay him through Paypal and there you have your SCM-1 microphone!
There is a solution for every problem!

http://www.vansteenisaudio.nl

Vac11

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2018, 05:32:28 AM »
Im going to order 2 Pronomics in the near future. So if you want, I can order microphone for you and resend it to Ontario... Just send me PM.

stelin

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2018, 04:46:16 PM »
I got two capsules from micparts  today (from eBay). Ordered about two weeks ago.
They look like the capsules in the eBay picture.
Tried them on my Takstar CM-63 mics tonight. Huge HF-peak around 7-8 KHz!
My CM-63 mics sounds pretty good with the original capsules. Not much different than my KM 184 (but a bit more noise).
Don't buy the micparts capsules! Unless you want a very, very bright mic.
Link to eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202266409962?euid=null&bu=43022476200&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu

RuudNL

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #107 on: August 31, 2018, 02:27:35 AM »
That is very strange!
I measured them and there was an obvious difference in frequency response.
The ones with the punched metal were measurable (and audible) more 'flat'.
In fact the same as the 'Banzai' capsules.
There is a solution for every problem!

http://www.vansteenisaudio.nl

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #108 on: August 31, 2018, 03:39:13 AM »
That is very strange!
I measured them and there was an obvious difference in frequency response.
The ones with the punched metal were measurable (and audible) more 'flat'.
In fact the same as the 'Banzai' capsules.
I think they're saying they got the ones with she mesh screen. So not the Banzai looking ones.

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #109 on: August 31, 2018, 12:21:10 PM »
Correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't it be possible to screw off the brass coloured ring and replace mesh with any kind of DIY mesh/grille?


RuudNL

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #110 on: August 31, 2018, 01:59:12 PM »
Yes, theoretically this should be possible!
As long as you don't sneeze and lose the thin spacer(s) between the diaphragm and the backplate.  ;D
But where do we find fine punctured thin metal plate?
I would measure the capacity of the capsule before disassembly and check afterwards.
Because the pressure of the threaded ring, that holds everything together, changes the capacity.
There is a solution for every problem!

http://www.vansteenisaudio.nl

craigmorris74

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #111 on: August 31, 2018, 03:54:41 PM »
The 7K problem isn't caused the screen/grill.  It's the distance from the front of the capsule to the diaphragm.  If you look at better sounding  SDC's the diaphragm is much closer to the front of the capsule than the MXL types.

It really isn't that difficult to grind off the front of the capsule and tame that peak.  Take out the inner brass ring, the backplate, and the diaphragm.  Like Ruud says, make sure you don't loose the thin spacer behind the diaphragm, it's super clear and thin.  Pop the inner ring that holds the screen  and screen out, grind the outer part of the capsule down, and put everything back in.  I used a tiny bit of glue to hold the screen in place.

jarvis

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2018, 03:15:51 AM »
Hey guys,
today I received my pair and unfortunately both had the old type of capsule with the slotted grille. It seems like after being sold out they restocked the old variant.  :-\

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2018, 05:41:20 AM »
Hi all,

this week a got my Takestar CM60 from China. I have compared them to the new Pronomic. Here are pictures and frequency plots.

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #114 on: September 01, 2018, 05:42:31 AM »
Inside

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #115 on: September 01, 2018, 05:43:33 AM »
backside

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #116 on: September 01, 2018, 05:44:22 AM »
capsules, different size!

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2018, 05:45:03 AM »
from the top

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #118 on: September 01, 2018, 05:47:36 AM »
Frequency plot Takestar red in comparison to Pronomic blue .  Speaker is a KH310 Neumann with pink noise
« Last Edit: September 01, 2018, 05:59:42 AM by micro1_de »

Re: Pronomic SCM-1
« Reply #119 on: September 01, 2018, 05:49:03 AM »
Takestar (red)  in comparison to MBHO KA200 (Blue) pink noise
« Last Edit: September 01, 2018, 05:59:27 AM by micro1_de »


 

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