abbey road d enfer

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2019, 07:40:47 AM »
Good luck with it - gating is a fine enterprise. I couldn't get by without my ones scattered throughout the place.
It's funny. Although I have been instrumental in promoting the concept of selective noise-gate in my country, I almost never use them today, in fact since I switched from dedicated recorder to recording in a PC.
I do that in the DAW, and even then, I don't use the noise-gate plug-ins. I use the De-noiser a lot, that works by grabbing an imprint of noise and applying an inverse filter, and pure and simple editing for cleaning lip noise, breath and whatever unwanted random noise. I don't even use the de-breath plug-in.
Who's right or wrong is irrelevant. What matters is what's right or wrong.
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Spencerleehorton

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2019, 01:47:28 PM »
Well I’ve made 3 pcbs now and I have all the bits lying around to populate them, I’ve made a Psu as well.
I know these won’t be the best but should help for the moment at least!
Will keep my eyes peeled for either the BSS, Dbx 1074 or Ds101s.
It’s good to learn about how these are constructed.
website: www.mohawkstudios.co.uk
email: [email protected]

If it hisses its probably the wrong impedance!!!

alexc

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2019, 09:46:25 PM »
It's funny. Although I have been instrumental in promoting the concept of selective noise-gate in my country, I almost never use them today, in fact since I switched from dedicated recorder to recording in a PC.
I do that in the DAW, and even then, I don't use the noise-gate plug-ins. I use the De-noiser a lot, that works by grabbing an imprint of noise and applying an inverse filter, and pure and simple editing for cleaning lip noise, breath and whatever unwanted random noise. I don't even use the de-breath plug-in.

I can understand that for sure ...  as my experience in diy has grown and my build 'noise' has decreased, I really do see the 'noise gate' riding into the sunset  ..  mostly.

But that's a relatively recent thing in my world. My face would light up always when I could tame an otherwise great 'sound' but with noise  ...  pickups, cables, excess gain   ....    all that kind of thing.

The more modern 'freq selective' and 'multiband'  are awesome! You really can 'gate' the bottom end and leave a lot of the rest fairly un-damaged.  I've mostly done that in digital, but perhaps '2 gates with a crossover'  kind of thing is doable in todays diy environment.

I find some of the modern implementations interesting ..   afaik  ..  the 500 series ones  ... I think there are some 'discrete' types out there  ...  like some of the german names with the gain cell with about 20 finely matched and calibrated little transistors ..

Fav. sw gate is in 'team DNR Mix Control' plug  .. it really works well  ..  I'd like to see a multiband version of  that in some analog hardware.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 09:51:26 PM by alexc »
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alexc

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2019, 09:53:15 PM »
And how about some the digital hardware 'creative' gates  ..  there was an older one Alesis    and a recent one  from  Klark-Tecknik I think it is  .. (Behringer nowadays)

Both had  a focus on 'transient shaping' gates  .. the Alesis with about 12 knobs each of 2 channels    ....   and the KT, about half as many knobs per channel but  with 4x  in a 2ru.  I'd love to try that one out. No idea if it is great to use or so.

And that old standout from  Presonus .. 8chan dynamics incl gate   - they were not bad as I recall.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2019, 12:07:12 AM by alexc »
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Spencerleehorton

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2019, 11:01:03 PM »
I had a presonus and they were very clicky on the gate, the compression wasn’t all that either.
I may end up not using them and just using everything post like I have been but mainly as I’ve said I want to try them on drums for live tracking of band in one room.
website: www.mohawkstudios.co.uk
email: [email protected]

If it hisses its probably the wrong impedance!!!

Spencerleehorton

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2019, 10:54:49 AM »
All pcbs populated apart from 0.47uf tants, red and green leds and 2.2meg pots.
When looking at the schematic I’m not sure whether there are two 8.2k or 82k resistors?
Pretty sure it is 8.2k but wanted to check?
website: www.mohawkstudios.co.uk
email: [email protected]

If it hisses its probably the wrong impedance!!!

Spencerleehorton

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2019, 08:21:48 AM »
Here's the case and the side ways mounted pcbs, will fix everything with L brackets, need to make one more channel to finish it off.
Need a few more parts to complete the final channel.
Will finish and test this next week, i know its not going to be as great a unit as the drawmers or even the Behringers but i've enjoyed putting it together, just cant justify the dosh on anything else at the moment.
website: www.mohawkstudios.co.uk
email: [email protected]

If it hisses its probably the wrong impedance!!!

abbey road d enfer

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2019, 04:46:06 PM »
All pcbs populated apart from 0.47uf tants, red and green leds and 2.2meg pots.
When looking at the schematic I’m not sure whether there are two 8.2k or 82k resistors?
Pretty sure it is 8.2k but wanted to check?
The one in the collector of the North transistor is 8.2k.
The one that goes above  the South-West transistor is 82k.
Who's right or wrong is irrelevant. What matters is what's right or wrong.
"The important thing is not to convince, but to give pause for thought." (B. Werber)
Star ground is for electricians.

Spencerleehorton

Re: The best noise gate?
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2019, 03:19:42 AM »
Thank you I’ll update schematic and share so it’s clear, still waiting on a few more bits, so no more progress.
And I can’t seem to post anymore pictures as it says download folder is full?
website: www.mohawkstudios.co.uk
email: [email protected]

If it hisses its probably the wrong impedance!!!

 

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