RuudNL

Warm Audio WA84
« on: January 30, 2019, 03:46:01 PM »
On NAMM 2019 Warm Audio has presented the WA84, obviously intended as a succesor of the KM84.
Looking as 'the real thing', it has a Cinemag transformer, Fairchild transistors and Wima capacitors.
Curious if they can make their promises true!
Any thoughts about this product?

Mmm... I read that the capsule is made by an Australian manufacturer. Would Ben know more about this?  ;)
« Last Edit: January 30, 2019, 03:50:49 PM by RuudNL »
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volker

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2019, 04:05:24 PM »
Yeah I saw that. They should get an award for least inventive and original company, just abolutely boring. I'm not interested in anything they have to offer.

One funny thing I noticed looking at their website: under "Our Team" there are seven people listed, not one of them is an engineer, does any form of R&D, or is any sort of "audio person". Just sales and marketing  ;D.

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2019, 05:04:29 PM »
I was told at NAMM that the capsules are interchangeable with the Neumann ones, so you can use KM-series capsules on a WA-84 body and vice versa. Which could be interesting.

Avgatzeblouz

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2019, 06:40:30 PM »
I was told at NAMM that the capsules are interchangeable with the Neumann ones, so you can use KM-series capsules on a WA-84 body and vice versa. Which could be interesting.

Yes, I confirmed with them via email. And they say the schematic is a 1:1 replica.

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2019, 12:52:26 AM »
Is there any word on what it'll cost? You could probably build the same thing for a lot less than what they'd charge. Honestly I'd probably just go that way if you have the soldering skills, or just buy the 3U Audio small diaphragm condenser with the transformer.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2019, 01:00:42 AM by Icantthinkofaname »

RuudNL

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2019, 05:32:33 AM »
Price of the WA84 is $399 USD.
True, it would be easy to replicate the electronics!
But how is the quality of the capsule?

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RuudNL

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2019, 05:35:52 AM »
One funny thing I noticed looking at their website: under "Our Team" there are seven people listed, not one of them is an engineer, does any form of R&D, or is any sort of "audio person". Just sales and marketing  ;D.

True! Only sales managers and marketing directors!  ;D
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gyraf

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2019, 10:48:25 AM »
Well, they hould hardly include the Neumann engineers as "our research team", could they?  ::)

Do we know if the backplate is correct - routed straight lines, not concentric circles like the chinamen does it?

Jakob E.
..note to self: don't let Harman run your company..

RuudNL

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2019, 11:33:20 AM »
Do we know if the backplate is correct - routed straight lines, not concentric circles like the chinamen does it?

That is why I would like to know who the mysterious Australian capsule manufacturer is!
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ln76d

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2019, 03:27:15 PM »
That is why I would like to know who the mysterious Australian capsule manufacturer is!

Like for other WA mics - Guosheng Zhuang


RuudNL

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2019, 07:31:30 AM »
So that may indicate that the capsule has at least a very reasonable quality?
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Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2019, 10:24:18 AM »
If only there was an affordable DIY kit available.

 :P

Avgatzeblouz

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2019, 10:48:21 AM »
If only there was an affordable DIY kit available.

 :P

The warm appeal is the ability to switch with Neumann capsules. An adapter for your kit would be awesome. My very personnal not consensual opinion, I know.

GraemeWoller

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2019, 03:32:47 PM »
It's very easy to to do a 1:1 replica of the original Neumann schematic. That what the Banzai kit has always been. I designed the PCB based on the original KM84 and the kit is a lot cheaper than the Warm Audio one with practically identical components to what they seem to be using.

Avgatzeblouz

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2019, 07:26:38 PM »
It's very easy to to do a 1:1 replica of the original Neumann schematic. That what the Banzai kit has always been. I designed the PCB based on the original KM84 and the kit is a lot cheaper than the Warm Audio one with practically identical components to what they seem to be using.

And that's why it would be so awesome to be able to put Neumann capsules on it. The Warm mics are too expensive to buy them with the Neumann capsule on top. It comes to the price of original ones...

ln76d

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2019, 07:00:47 AM »
It's very easy to to do a 1:1 replica of the original Neumann schematic. That what the Banzai kit has always been. I designed the PCB based on the original KM84 and the kit is a lot cheaper than the Warm Audio one with practically identical components to what they seem to be using.

Didn't had Wa84 in my hands, but i believe, like in LDC of WA which i had, that the circuit isn't 1:1.

Avgatzeblouz

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2019, 10:10:29 AM »
Didn't had Wa84 in my hands, but i believe, like in LDC of WA which i had, that the circuit isn't 1:1.

They stated me through email that it is 1:1, for the 84.

RuudNL

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2019, 03:26:18 PM »
The KM84 is a pretty simple circuit, so it might be true (this time!) that they use the original design.
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Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2019, 10:01:17 AM »
It's very easy to to do a 1:1 replica of the original Neumann schematic. That what the Banzai kit has always been. I designed the PCB based on the original KM84 and the kit is a lot cheaper than the Warm Audio one with practically identical components to what they seem to be using.
 

What kit is this? I know of a couple 84 kits but they are about the same price as a built wa84.

Gus

Re: Warm Audio WA84
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2019, 10:11:42 AM »
Why do people want this circuit?
Why not build something better/different?

How close is the capsule that matters more than the circuit.


 

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