ECC189 spice model - anyone?

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Habibi

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Hello,

Looking for spice models of vari-mu valves, in particular ECC189 - I have not had much luck so far...

Does anyone have one, or models of anything remotely similar?

Thanks

 
Maybe looking at a macro of a similar model could help you to design one?

I haven’t opened the Koren libs in a while but that would be the first place I would look. You might be able to contact him via email?
 
PRR said:
https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/243950-vacuum-tube-spice-models.html

I have been through DIYAudio and couldn't find anything. A search in that thread doesn't show a result for ecc189 or 6es8. I have not manually gone through all 100 pages yet though... will update if I find anything - unless you have already spotted it there?
 
Sorry.

Mock-up with 6DJ8, it will "work", but the numbers won't be exact.

Code:
**********************************************************************
* GENERIC: 6DJ8 / ECC88
* MODEL:   6DJ8
* NOTES:   No grid current model
**********************************************************************
.SUBCKT 6DJ8 A G K
XV1 A G K TRIODENH
+PARAMS: LIP= 1.5 LIF= 10 RAF= 0.09 RAS= 0.2 CDO= 0 
+ RAP= 0 ERP= 1.35 
+ MU0= 33 MUR= 0.02 EMC= 0.0000795 
+ GCO=-0.2 GCF= 0 
+ CGA=1.40E-12 CGK=3.30E-12 CAK=1.80E-12
.ENDS
 
PRR said:
Sorry.

Mock-up with 6DJ8, it will "work", but the numbers won't be exact.

Code:
**********************************************************************
* GENERIC: 6DJ8 / ECC88
* MODEL:   6DJ8
* NOTES:   No grid current model
**********************************************************************
.SUBCKT 6DJ8 A G K
XV1 A G K TRIODENH
+PARAMS: LIP= 1.5 LIF= 10 RAF= 0.09 RAS= 0.2 CDO= 0 
+ RAP= 0 ERP= 1.35 
+ MU0= 33 MUR= 0.02 EMC= 0.0000795 
+ GCO=-0.2 GCF= 0 
+ CGA=1.40E-12 CGK=3.30E-12 CAK=1.80E-12
.ENDS

Appreciate it, thank you.
 
I just noted that I gave parameters but not the TRIODENH model/math.
Code:
**********************************************************************
.SUBCKT TRIODENH A G K
+PARAMS: LIP=1 LIF=3.7E-3 RAF=18E-3 RAS=1 CDO=0 RAP=4E-3
+ ERP=1.5
+ MU0=17.3 MUR=19E-3 EMC=9.6E-6 GCO=0 GCF=213E-6
+ CGA=3.9p CGK=2.4p CAK=0.7p 

************************************************************************
*
* Anode/grid model
*
* Models reduction in mu at large negative grid voltages
* Models change in Ra with negative grid voltages
* Models limit in Ia with high +Vg and low Va
*
* PARAMETERS
*
*       LIP Conduction limit exponent
*       LIF Conduction limit factor
*       CDO Conduction offset
*       RAF Anode resistance factor for neg grid voltages
*       RAP Anode resistance factor for positive grid voltages
*       ERP Emission power
*       MU0 Mu between grid and anode at Vg=0
*       MUR Mu reduction factor for large negative grid voltages
*       EMC Emission coefficient
*       GCO Grid current offset in volts
*       GCF Grid current scale factor
*
************************************************************************

Elim  LI 0  VALUE {PWR(LIMIT{V(A,K),0,1E6},{LIP})*{LIF}}
Egg   GG 0  VALUE {V(G,K)-{CDO}}
Erpf  RP 0  VALUE {1-PWR(LIMIT{-V(GG)*{RAF},0,0.999},{RAS})+LIMIT{V(GG),0,1E6}*{RAP}}
Egr   GR 0  VALUE {LIMIT{V(GG),0,1E6}+LIMIT{(V(GG))*(1+V(GG)*{MUR}),-1E6,0}}
Eem   EM 0  VALUE {LIMIT{V(A,K)+V(GR)*{MU0},0,1E6}}
Eep   EP 0  VALUE {PWR(V(EM),ERP)*{EMC}*V(RP)}
Eel   EL 0  VALUE {LIMIT{V(EP),0,V(LI)}}
Eld   LD 0  VALUE {LIMIT{V(EP)-V(LI),0,1E6}}
Ga    A  K  VALUE {V(EL)}

************************************************************************
*
* Grid current model
*
* Models grid current, along with rise in grid current at low Va
*
************************************************************************
Egf   GF 0  VALUE {PWR(LIMIT{V(G,K)-{GCO},0,1E6},1.5)*{GCF}}
Gg1    G  K  VALUE {(V(GF)+V(LD))}
* gf
*
* Capacitances and anti-float resistors
*
CM1     G       K       {CGK}
CM2     A       G       {CGA}
CM3     A       K       {CAK}
RF1     A       0       1000MEG
RF2     G       0       1000MEG
RF3     K       0       1000MEG

.ENDS
**********************************************************************

I have NOT worked with this model and do not know its quirks.
 
Hello Habibi,

Let me propose 5 N.O.S Phillips 50£ all-inclusive & could come for circuit designing too.

peace
 

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