Phrazemaster

Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2019, 05:41:50 AM »
Hi Manfred, have you tried to call him by phone ?
Maybe it helps.
I’ve to say, I get everything from Andrew and never had any trouble.
Maybe you could call him for us? I’ve tried mailing him so many times. He responds once in a while with his story of being out of money and the bodies are at the platers, and that’s it. I’ve offered him money, no response.
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Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2019, 07:45:25 PM »
I sent payment on a u47 body from him on 6-22-15, and finally received a refund on 4/1/16. I almost ordered an m49 from him somewhere in the middle of this timeline, but am so glad I ordered one from tab funkenwerk, as I received that 3 days after paying.

As I wrote above, this was pretty much how it went with me.  At the time of the refund he said that he'd received an influx of finances from someone who was interested in investing in his business. 

A thought:  Is there anyone on the forum who lives anywhere nearby Andrew?  Perhaps something could be negotiated for him to hand over whatever parts he has.  He might be more open to this than a potential court ruled lien that could happen if enough folks decided to act. 
Note to self:  Don't let c**ts wind you up

Phrazemaster

Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2019, 08:32:56 PM »
If he’d just send the unplated bodies and boxes I think most guys would be ok with that.

And even be willing to pay more for shipping.

I would...
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iturnknobs

Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2019, 08:48:08 PM »
Perhaps something could be negotiated for him to hand over whatever parts he has.  He might be more open to this than a potential court ruled lien that could happen if enough folks decided to act.

Is that even possible internationally, across several countries? Not interested in action, just curious about the laws.
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Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2019, 09:02:23 PM »
If he’d just send the unplated bodies and boxes I think most guys would be ok with that.

And even be willing to pay more for shipping.

I would...

Yes of course.   I would too in your position.   
First thing to determine is, does he have the bodies?  IOW, not "are they at the platers" but, do they even actually exist, in any form whatsoever.
Since he does respond, albeit sporadically, can the answer to this question be determined by whoever can reach him.  I'm not suggesting that a class action legal type of thing from you guys is the way forward but, although difficult, it could be done if it came to it.  And the thought of that hanging over his head may prompt a more honest answer from him.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2019, 11:45:54 AM by Winston O'Boogie »
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flatresponse

    Bietigheim-Bissingen, Germany
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Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2020, 10:43:04 AM »
Hi, I´m back again,

in another thread there was the question, whether payment method might be the reason for Andreius to deliver or not. I have to say, I was so blue-eyed to pay via bank transfer. But even PayPalers didn´t get, what they payed for.

@ TillM: I´m not inclined to talk to Andrew directly after getting no answer on EMail or Messenger. Is your contact friendly enough to ask him, what´s going on ?

Anybody on the board knows when a case like this is time-barred ? (since it´s more than 4 years for me now). Apart from that I tend to believe there is no money at all on his side. So one would even have to pay for a court case in addtion. A german saying is: don´t throw good money after bad money (or something like that). On the other hand my 879.-€ are not from the petty cash.

I think the idea of getting the bodies and plate them yourselves is a good idea - as long as there are bodies at all.

Manfred.

buckethead

Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2020, 12:30:06 PM »
Hi Manfred,

I think the deadline to sue him -  in Austria - is three years after the year the transaction happened in ended. If you ordered for instance in March 2012 the three year period starts on 1.1.2013 and you have time until 31.12.2015 to assert claims. After that...it's gone. I don't know how it is in Germany or any other country tho.

As you said, there probably wouldn't be much money to get out of it anyways...

I cut my losses and made peace, Karma and stuff  ;D

Best regards,
Mathias


flatresponse

    Bietigheim-Bissingen, Germany
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Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2020, 12:59:45 PM »
Hi,
no more posts the last 120 days, so I will end this thread for my part.
As a few of you will know, Andrew has found a sponsor and some staff members for 2 brandnew CNC machines.
I am happy for him. He announced the news, but without any consequences (at least for me).

I´m inclined to share buckethead´s opinion and quote:
>I cut my losses and made peace, Karma and stuff<

Stay safe and more than that, keep your personal freedom
Manfred.

moamps

Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2020, 02:06:34 PM »
It's a very sad story. I don’t think things should be left just like that. The moderation team should collect all the claims of the members of this forum (I guess the leadership of the forum has some obligations to the members if Andrew had a thread in the White market here) and form one thread where everyone will be listed with the total claim. Thread needs to be constantly updated with full name, name of his web site, facebook, instagram etc. (for Google to give that thread among the first to all those who search him and his business) and he should be declared here as a "persona non grata" until he refunds money to everyone. The fact that its products are very well made and that some members got what they paid for, means nothing to those members who have not yet received anything after years of waiting and who feel stolen.

P.S.
Also all images of his products that are on the Gdiy forum and Google displays them in pictures mode should be removed (or links to them) or marked with some kind of warning.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2020, 02:18:26 PM by moamps »

Phrazemaster

Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2020, 02:13:03 PM »
That sounds like a good idea. I'm out over $600 USD.
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Spencerleehorton

Re: APUTIS M49 & U47 bodies
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2020, 04:00:25 PM »
if it helps anyone, im selling my M49's i got 2 x M49b and 2 M49c clones with danys pcbs and sowter transformers, two have half decent capsules and are made of bronze nickel plated the other two have some chinese capsules in them, they dont sound that bad but would benefit from capsule upgrade.
Just a thought, get in touch if you want to know more and have pictures, audio files etc.
website: www.mohawkstudios.co.uk
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