JohnRoberts said:
who says that? Of course the russian's interfered... They are still interfering (or trying to). That russians are all over this is a given. Be patient this will become clear in time... or not.
The question IMO is who else besides the russians were up to political funny business and dirty tricks?
I'd rather not speculate too much when the investigations are close to winding up.
JR
PS: Never drop a good mic... :
But you will speculate that the investigation is "close to winding up"...? :
Here's my position, as a general rule I give people the benefit of the doubt, and when in specific points of view there is a clear difference I like to try and get under the thought process to determine what it is I might be missing...but what I am finding more and more of is this idea that "distance and delay" connected to MY patience will produce results that will provide REASONABLE return of expectation...
When it comes to things that require me to have faith, I have become somewhat jaded...I was raised as a preachers kid, spent 50 years deeply involved in right wing conservative religion and its political arm...I was fully supportive of the "Moral Majority" and folks like Franklin Graham and even Paula White...but then I went through sort of an exile...which led me to begin serious questioning of the right wing approach to life in general...for the majority of my long time friends the entire political defense of Trump comes down to abortion and judges...(which is a subject I will not wander into here)...and I get the devotion, I understand it full well...but I no longer support ideas that require me to ignore plain evidence...I no longer believe in people who have "Almost seen bigfoot"....
To suggest I be patient with a conspiracy theory feels like all the promises I was dangled for 50 years, it has the same exact mental tension of "distance and delay" that the preachers offer...it carries the same kind of Utopian promise of justice behind the curtain of my patience...if I will just "wait the course and hold my faith" I will see the truth...
People keep talking about a "deep state" all the while ignoring a businessman with a lifetime history of working for the mob and money laundering...I say the simplest solution is staring us in our faces...and it coincides with the fact that Jay Sekulow has pushed to have Trumps tax returns turned over to a LEGITIMATE congressional inquiry up to the SCOTUS hoping a stacked court will deny the release...as Sandburg once said:
“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”
And now we can add: If pounding the table and yelling like hell don't work, start an investigation into the investigators...
What happens when the report is released (only slightly redacted) and there is no real evidence of wrongdoing?
At what point are we expected to drop conspiracy theories and accept the simplest solution that Trump is owned by the Russian mafia?
All I can say is this:
IF Trump was NOT compromised he should have no issue releasing his tax records, he would not need Barr to investigate the reason behind the FBI investigation and he would not need to send Rudy to get the Ukraine to investigate the Biden thing, he should be able to play fair and transparent like he promised he would...as it is...he want's us to keep trusting him, but at this point he sounds just like Paula White and her promises of Gods blessing me if I send HER my money.
P.S. I think people are ignoring a REAL possibility here: IF as I currently believe, Trump is deeply compromised by Putin, there is a VAST amount of damage he could be doing to our Republic THIS VERY MINUTE...and it would look EXACTLY like it looks from this surface view...he would be supportive of ALL of Putins projects, like destroying the UN, getting NATO and others out of Syrias way, and undermining Ukraine and her resistance to Putins war against her independence...frankly Trump would do EXACTLY what he has been doing since day one IF he was fully compromised...
