CJ

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1380 on: January 10, 2021, 09:19:15 PM »
this thing might disappear on its own before everyone gets vaccinated.

as the weather warms up, look to see more people gathering in the parks, thus increasing the spread.

today the bike/pedestrian  path was packed like it was summer because we had some good weather.

people seem to have exceeded their tolerance level for being cooped up inside. and they might also think that everything is ok because some people are getting their shots.

a radio show had someone say that we should shoot up younger people because they spread it thwe most and can do so without having symptoms, but i do not see how that would work as getting a shot does not mean that you can not get C-19, it means that after you do get it, you will not suffer the consequences.

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scott2000

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1381 on: January 10, 2021, 09:21:17 PM »
Heard also from someone that Ivermectin was good. I guess some South Americans are using it (Ivermectina) with nice success.

Script

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1382 on: January 10, 2021, 09:46:48 PM »
Not sure but I think I read somewhere that people can still spread it despite being inoculated !? It just means they don't get seriously ill. But also less viral load ( and thus spreading ??), I assume.

Ivermectin ('wonder' drug against exotic / tropical desease), read about it early last year. Never heard it being mentioned again though.

JohnRoberts

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1383 on: January 10, 2021, 09:56:02 PM »
Heard also from someone that Ivermectin was good. I guess some South Americans are using it (Ivermectina) with nice success.
Brazil has just agreed to buy the Chinese vaccine after first rejecting it.

JR
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scott2000

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1384 on: January 10, 2021, 09:56:48 PM »


Ivermectin ('wonder' drug against exotic / tropical desease), read about it early last year. Never heard it being mentioned again though.

Yeah... I guess it's also used for cows or something....Heard a few pretty convincing stories of it kicking butt of some Covid sickness....removing elevated temp, no pain..within a day or so///. But who knows...


Brazil has just agreed to buy the Chinese vaccine after first rejecting it.

JR

I know the Peruvians were having issues with not digging the liability clause of one vaccine manufacturer.... Not sure how that's playing out...

JohnRoberts

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1385 on: January 12, 2021, 10:18:49 AM »
Yeah... I guess it's also used for cows or something....Heard a few pretty convincing stories of it kicking butt of some Covid sickness....removing elevated temp, no pain..within a day or so///. But who knows...


I know the Peruvians were having issues with not digging the liability clause of one vaccine manufacturer.... Not sure how that's playing out...
Brazil is a huge country so significant win for the Chinese vaccine, which is reportedly something like 78% effective, and only needs regular refrigeration.

JR
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hodad

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1386 on: January 12, 2021, 10:42:20 AM »
Not sure but I think I read somewhere that people can still spread it despite being inoculated !?
This is what my sister-in-law was told when she was vaccinated (she's a hospice chaplain.) 

cyrano

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1387 on: January 14, 2021, 03:44:38 PM »
Let's say I had a gut feeling about this:

https://www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(20)34701-6/fulltext

https://gut.bmj.com/content/early/2021/01/04/gutjnl-2020-323020

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/71/10/2669/5851452

summary:
The studies found significant microbial differences between COVID-19 patients and controls.

Species including Bifidobacterium adolescentis, Faecalibacterium prausnitzii and Eubacterium rectale, which have previously been shown to play a role in immune system activity, were all seen in notably lower volumes in COVID-19 patients. COVID-19 patients also displayed unusually higher volumes of bacterial species including Ruminococcus gnavus, Ruminococcus torques, and Bacteroides dorie.

It could mean that there's no need to worry about Covid, as long as your gut bacteria are diverse.
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1388 on: January 14, 2021, 04:23:53 PM »
There certainly seems to be a lot of studies showing a correlation between ill health and lack of variety of gut bacteria, diet plays a huge role .  Im fairly certain my dogs who are voracious hunters and frequently roll in fox crap bring all kinds of stuff including corona viruses home. Aside from the obvious companionship they provide , seems they may well be helping our immune systems also.   

JohnRoberts

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1389 on: January 14, 2021, 05:21:27 PM »
Let's say I had a gut feeling about this:

https://www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(20)34701-6/fulltext

https://gut.bmj.com/content/early/2021/01/04/gutjnl-2020-323020

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/71/10/2669/5851452

summary:
The studies found significant microbial differences between COVID-19 patients and controls.

Species including Bifidobacterium adolescentis, Faecalibacterium prausnitzii and Eubacterium rectale, which have previously been shown to play a role in immune system activity, were all seen in notably lower volumes in COVID-19 patients. COVID-19 patients also displayed unusually higher volumes of bacterial species including Ruminococcus gnavus, Ruminococcus torques, and Bacteroides dorie.

It could mean that there's no need to worry about Covid, as long as your gut bacteria are diverse.
didn't see any direct cause and effect... many medicines (like antibacterials) wipe out gut biotics, that need to be rebuilt for proper digestion.

When I was a kid I reportedly ate dirt... these days I eat kefir and other biotic rich foods.

JR
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squarewave

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1390 on: January 14, 2021, 05:23:16 PM »
Im fairly certain my dogs who are voracious hunters and frequently roll in fox crap bring all kinds of stuff including corona viruses home. Aside from the obvious companionship they provide , seems they may well be helping our immune systems also.
So where can I get some fox crap?

cyrano

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1391 on: January 14, 2021, 05:48:29 PM »
That's the beauty of it! Any crap will do!  ;D

Seriously, it all seems to link to having a rich gut biology.

This time it's Covid, but it's also depression, allergies, food-deficiencies and even obesity that seem to be caused (or at the very least worsened) by poor biology in the colon. Substances like tryptophan, fi are controlled by the colon.
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1392 on: January 14, 2021, 05:55:05 PM »
We have red foxes all over the place here in Ireland , I have one who ranges through my property and does his deposits . I usually cover it in wood ash to discourage my dogs from rolling in it. Its quite distinctive fox poop, almost black in colour , probably due to eating other critters , Ive also noticed in late summer it can be purple due to them gorging themselves on ripe blackberries . The smell of it I cant even describe other than to say its utterly rank.

I'd offer to pop some in the post to you ,but I've a feeling faecal material is prohibited by USPS  :D

scott2000

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1393 on: January 16, 2021, 07:33:54 PM »
Good thing the flu is declining. It seems the pediatric deaths this past season were getting pretty bad...

August 21, 2020

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatric-flu-deaths.htm

"August 21, 2020 – CDC today reported one new seasonal flu-related death in a child that occurred during the 2019-2020 season, bringing the total number of flu deaths in children reported to CDC for last season to 188. This matches the highest recorded number for pediatric flu deaths reported during a regular flu season, which occurred during the 2017-2018 flu season."

Included some graphs to show what it looks like.....it surpassed the 2017-18 season looks like...
Put the 2009 season in one chart as well to show how severe it was for the kids compared to normal seasons....
Guess seasons start in October ? Gets confusing to follow.. so the new 20-21 season began in Oct 2020

« Last Edit: January 16, 2021, 07:58:54 PM by scott2000 »

scott2000

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1394 on: January 17, 2021, 02:05:39 AM »
Drug Actemra (sarilumab) against rheumatoid arthritis might help critically ill patients.


They say it reduced ICU times by up to 10 days and saved one in 12 lives. This drug reduces cykotine storm.



Looks like that is how it's effective against RA.. Blocking IL-6 or something....

https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/sanofi-release-sarilumab-eular-2015-presentations-/

They worked with Regeneron which is interesting....

https://investor.regeneron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/sanofi-and-regeneron-report-positive-phase-2b-trial-results

Guess Il-6 has been explored in the past

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0038214




cyrano

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1395 on: February 14, 2021, 05:08:09 PM »
Meet the people who spread COVID internationally:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/02/13/1018374/peter-diamandis-covid-superspreader-a360-conference/

Peter Diamandis is also the founder of Covaxx. He clearly should've known better.

Quote
At the time, a regional stay-at-home order made the gathering illegal. The outbreak wasn't reported to authorities as required and rules on health data privacy may have been broken.
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?

cyrano

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1396 on: February 18, 2021, 03:55:43 PM »
The latest mutations are eight times as infectious:

https://phys.org/news/2021-02-mutation-sars-cov-spike-protein-virus.html

Quote
A mutation in the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2—one of several genetic mutations in the concerning variants that have emerged in the United Kingdom, South Africa, and Brazil—makes the virus up to eight times more infectious in human cells than the initial virus that originated in China, according to research published in the journal eLife.

The study, led by researchers at New York University, the New York Genome Center, and Mount Sinai, corroborates findings that the D614G mutation makes SARS-CoV-2 more transmissible.
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?

JohnRoberts

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1397 on: February 19, 2021, 10:10:30 AM »
Our life expectancy just dropped one year... (to 77.8 from 78.8 for babies born now). This is more concerning to those within spitting distance of those numbers.

===

Good reports about single dose effectivity of pfizer/moderna vaccine. This makes UK decision to give more people single doses sound smart.

JR
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cyrano

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1398 on: February 19, 2021, 01:02:26 PM »
A mathematician in Slovakia summed it up in four words: "We don't know". That was about numbers for his country.

We still look at numbers that aren't comparable. Yet we draw conclusions. These must be inherently false.

The price for the best handling of Covid must go to Bhutan. 1 death so far, on a population of 800.000 or so. They simply did what was possible short term. The difference is, the entire population was behind it. Not a nation of people who immediately disagree, but a nation whose population realised the govt wasn't telling stories and their only chance was working together. Despite limited means, they succeeded. We should be able to do that too, shouldn't we?
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?

JohnRoberts

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1399 on: February 24, 2021, 12:01:31 PM »
J&J vaccine just cleared another hurdle (phase 3 testing) and looks like emergency authorization will come soon. They have 4M doses ready for immediate release and can ship 100M by end of June.

JR

[update- I just personally secured an appointment for my first Moderna Jab in 3 weeks. I only have to drive about 50 miles total. /update]
« Last Edit: February 24, 2021, 04:59:52 PM by JohnRoberts »
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