pucho812

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #100 on: August 01, 2020, 07:49:01 PM »
This is coming out awesome. Great job dude👍
You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is.


fazer

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #101 on: August 02, 2020, 01:27:32 PM »
2nd that.   Your channel strip faceplate is very clear to read and has a world of routing possibilities with the 2 slot design.   It’s beautiful.

scott2000

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #102 on: August 02, 2020, 01:38:20 PM »
Gorgeous. :o

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #103 on: August 03, 2020, 12:34:18 AM »
Thanks guys.  Owe much of it to yall and gdiy. Much love.

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #104 on: August 09, 2020, 02:12:31 AM »
In the weeds... 8)



Direct out runs (pre-cleanup):


messy (but useful) wire wrapping:
« Last Edit: August 11, 2020, 07:07:23 PM by boji »

fazer

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #105 on: August 18, 2020, 12:59:12 PM »
It is just old school wiring.  Not messy.   I'm dismantling my studio and looking at the wire work done point to point circa 1975.  Lots of spaghetti when its all done.   Wire tie or wrap is the only way to keep the bundles secured to the frame and stay put in place.

ruffrecords

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #106 on: August 18, 2020, 04:32:58 PM »
And when it comes wiring panels, old school tie bars are still the best:



Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

scott2000

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #107 on: August 18, 2020, 07:27:56 PM »
 :o cool

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #108 on: August 19, 2020, 09:21:49 AM »
And when it comes wiring panels, old school tie bars are still the best:



Cheers

Ian
I searched tie bar, and found they're referred to as lacer bars as well.  Ian, yours look as though they must be tapped for a screw, then screwed in place from the outside of the back panel.  Neat option for keeping things... neat.  I came up with a method of my own when I did my back panel (with tons of XLR and TRS I/O connectors) but will try this technique in future.

Keep going Boji, your determination, passion, and perseverance are admirable.  The leave no stone unturned approach, the over-thinking, it's not unique to you but you're taking it to extremes and it's helping others who might be considering the same road.  I'm intending for you, and the people who help you, to take this as a compliment.

As for me, artist me has put technical me aside for a time, and I still like to peruse, read and learn about audio electronics as much as I can in 'spare time.'  Kind of a nice balance to the art and rather than feel rusty I feel like I understand it more, bit by bit. 

Holger's console, what a thing of beauty.  Your console, coming out great.  I have a feeling Boji, that you'd like the project to go on for good, and I see that as a good quality.  On a episode of Heartbeat that I watched recently one of the characters had a passion project, repairing/restoring something, and when he was 95% complete there was an apparent disaster - it was nearly demolished.  The guy who was doing the project was actually pleased about it, and secretly hoped it'd go on for months, maybe even years... with a little smile of excitement.  I'm sure you, and many others here, can relate to this and I know I did.  It's a weird thing but you know what they say about life-long learning and keeping busy.

Take care gang,
Adam

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #109 on: August 19, 2020, 06:16:47 PM »
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It is just old school wiring.  Not messy.
Thank you for saying so. If perfection was paramount (ought to be) I'd of made jigs like PRR? posted few months back...
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old school tie bars are still the best
Yes!  Can't get much nicer than that--a structure meant to keep clean the runs in a superstructure.  Looks the best!
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The leave no stone unturned approach, the over-thinking
Building me some Dunning-Kruger rainbow bridges!
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I have a feeling Boji, that you'd like the project to go on for good
Quite the opposite- Came to terms with the fact I've never finished anything that has been truly objectively difficult.  Want to see if I can actually make something that intertwines unknown territory with maximum deferred gratification-- completion is critical for many reasons, most of which are psychological.

Edit:  I've also been scared of success in the past, have a problem with the spotlight, and have a desperate love for making music-- so there's fear and distraction at play as well... it's not all a 'grand rite of passage'- there's some bullsh*t floating around it too!  ;D
« Last Edit: August 19, 2020, 06:51:02 PM by boji »


boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #110 on: August 20, 2020, 12:35:08 AM »
Distribution busbar well dressed and complete.


On to topside signal...

ruffrecords

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #111 on: August 20, 2020, 04:42:21 AM »
I searched tie bar, and found they're referred to as lacer bars as well.  Ian, yours look as though they must be tapped for a screw, then screwed in place from the outside of the back panel.  Neat option for keeping things... neat.  I came up with a method of my own when I did my back panel (with tons of XLR and TRS I/O connectors) but will try this technique in future.

Adam
Tie bars, lacing bars - the terms are pretty much interchangeable. These one I got from Canford Audio here in the UK. They use them on their own custom panels. I already had the panels from another supplier; i just needed the tie bars. You are spot on - the ends are tapped. I just drilled a couple of countersunk holes and screwed them in. As well as making things tidy and supporting the wiring, they act as strain relief on the connectors. The tie wraps shown in the pic are rhe commonly available type but they look a but too big to my eye especially compared to traditional lacing. I recently found some that are about half the width. They look much neater.

Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #112 on: August 23, 2020, 11:45:08 AM »
Main, Group, & Aux VU buffers (circuit optimization courtesy Joe Malone):



« Last Edit: August 23, 2020, 11:50:27 AM by boji »

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #113 on: September 14, 2020, 04:05:23 AM »
Some boring updates:

Confirmed Mogami W2944 wire pairs perfectly with EZ or standard RJ45 connectors:



About 12 terms per ch to/from slots, logic & patchbay... (work!)

Using ratsound's supercat for CV, due to its braided shield and flexibility.
Works nicely for signal too, as a silicone-like inner molding and stranded nylon core keeps TP's separated. Easy to work with.


« Last Edit: October 01, 2020, 08:59:28 PM by boji »

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #114 on: September 30, 2020, 02:56:15 AM »
#4 Channel interconnect, 8 of 16 (Slot2 inserts/patch, A1 insert/patch, VU sends)

shabtek

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #115 on: September 30, 2020, 07:13:01 AM »
maximum respect
"really fine players do not use stomp boxes or master volume, they match the amp to the room and turn it up to 11.  Stevie Ray, BB King, Albert King, Duane Allman, Dicky Betts, Louis Armstrong"
   -CJ

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #116 on: October 01, 2020, 07:17:25 PM »
/salute Thank you Shab!

Never been excited about a wire delivery until today  ::)   

Gold

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #117 on: October 02, 2020, 12:13:36 AM »
I love that stuff. I only use four colors for four channels. I recently started using Mogami 2368 for unbalanced and/or shielded connections.

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #118 on: October 12, 2020, 03:18:14 AM »
Channel cables complete. On to group connects.

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I love that stuff. I only use four colors for four channels.
Underestimated lengths so had to use all the colors. ::) At least they'll be super easy to trace!


« Last Edit: October 12, 2020, 03:25:45 AM by boji »

boji

Re: DIY API 1604 inspired mixer (16x8x2)
« Reply #119 on: October 29, 2020, 12:21:12 AM »
Bought a label maker


Final set of faceplates bascoated:


 

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