crazydoc

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1080 on: November 19, 2020, 07:32:05 PM »
I have nothing but respect for the health professionals that did not cut and run... Not unlike fire fighters, and police who move toward danger, not away, our health workers who soldier on despite the personal risk deserve much thanks.
JR
There's no point in soldiering on if those you are trying to protect don't have your back, and in fact may be stabbing you in the back.
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.


cyrano

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1081 on: November 20, 2020, 06:58:05 AM »
I have nothing but respect for the health professionals that did not cut and run... Not unlike fire fighters, and police who move toward danger, not away, our health workers who soldier on despite the personal risk deserve much thanks.

JR

So the ones who aren't risking their lives and those of their families don't get your respect?

Maybe it's a good thing your aren't in health care.  >:(
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?

iturnknobs

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1082 on: November 20, 2020, 07:48:45 AM »
I have nothing but respect for the health professionals that did not cut and run... Not unlike fire fighters, and police who move toward danger, not away, our health workers who soldier on despite the personal risk deserve much thanks.

JR

Health care providers are saving people and are being threatened by Our Dear Leader's followers. Speak out against all these idiots loudly. If one chooses not to, it is nothing but silent support. Who do you stand with? SHAME ON the USa.
Election 2020.  For the people, not the money.

JohnRoberts

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1083 on: November 20, 2020, 09:47:00 AM »
Health care providers are saving people and are being threatened by Our Dear Leader's followers. Speak out against all these idiots loudly. If one chooses not to, it is nothing but silent support. Who do you stand with? SHAME ON the USa.
this is the second time you shared that ridiculous talking point, apparently you believe it.
===

Not surprising that my support for health professionals putting themselves in harms way, triggers a personal attack toward me.

If this triggers y'all I submit that is your problem.

JR

PS: I was disappointed when my local clinic doctor retired early (because of ACA) but I do not see that as equivalent (She didn't retire until the clinic had a replacement MD in place). Of course medical professionals who are themselves at high risk for COVID complications need to be more cautious. Older workers and any with compromised immunity should avoid infectious contact. Hopefully they will be better informed about the risks than (we) the public are.     
It's nice to be nice....

hodad

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1084 on: November 20, 2020, 10:10:50 AM »
this is the second time you shared that ridiculous talking point, apparently you believe it.
===
Which part didn't you believe, John--the part where healthcare workers are threatened by Trump supporters, or do you just not believe that you're tainted by association with them? 
Because there's plenty of evidence of the former:  Death threats against Fauci, and this article here:  https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/public-health-workers-fighting-covid-19-are-threatened-violence-forced-n1230501

As to the latter, I guess you can believe what you want.  You can protest that you're not guilty by association, that your support for a president who fomented these actions does not mean you support his fomentation.  It's a judgment call, I suppose.  One might argue that silent disagreement is tacit support, but whatevs. 

iturnknobs

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1085 on: November 20, 2020, 10:41:21 AM »
this is the second time you shared that ridiculous talking point, apparently you believe it.
===

Not surprising that my support for health professionals putting themselves in harms way, triggers a personal attack towards me.
If this triggers y'all I submit that is your problem.

JR

The most recognized and prestigious medical organization in this country passed by-laws and recommended procedure concerning this matter just this week. I cannot divulge the organization's name in order to retain my employment by them. The fact that you consider it a ridiculous talking point magnifies your unwillingness to see, along with your blind political support for a party riddled with bad unchecked behavior. Fake news, I suppose.

*edit: For the record, not only do thousands of doctors believe it, but they experience it. If only you could have been present to tell them all that it's not real. Rich.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2020, 11:06:47 AM by iturnknobs »
Election 2020.  For the people, not the money.

iturnknobs

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1086 on: November 20, 2020, 11:31:35 AM »
There's no point in soldiering on if those you are trying to protect don't have your back, and in fact may be stabbing you in the back.

At least when the Trumper anti-maskers get intubated they finally stop spewing conspiracy theories. Oh, the irony.
Election 2020.  For the people, not the money.

crazydoc

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1087 on: November 20, 2020, 02:08:06 PM »
Another way to look at it:

If this is a "war" against SARS-CoV-2, then there is a huge part of the population, led by their megalomaniacal narcissist, that is aiding and abetting the enemy by refusing to follow even the simple mitigation measures to try to defeat it. In a word, they are traitors. Why should the soldiers who are on the front lines of the conflict do anything for them? Let them die - at least that way they won't be spreading the virus to those who are fighting against it.

Harsh, I know, and they'd be hard to identify with certainty anyway.  :o
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

crazydoc

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1088 on: November 20, 2020, 07:41:50 PM »
Stanford Faculty Condemn Hoover Institution Fellow, Trump COVID-19 Advisor Dr. Scott Atlas – ‘An Embarrassment To The University’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/stanford-faculty-condemn-hoover-institution-fellow-trump-covid-19-advisor-dr-scott-atlas-an-embarrassment-to-the-university/ar-BB1bdm6y?ocid=bingcovid
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

CJ

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1089 on: November 20, 2020, 11:55:56 PM »
stupid cocksucker rump won't admit defeat, still cling to a thread in order to keep his ego hanging on, all this while thousands suffocate.

blows my mind. how spiritually bankrupt and brain dead to you have to be to do something like this?

no matter what he did in the last 4 years, people will only remember for how he acted as a complete a-hole in the face of a national health and economic disaster.

make America great again? yeah. how did that work out.
what an idiot. almost not even wasting words on. i hope someone ties him to a tree and lets a rhino screw him up the ass.

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shabtek

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1090 on: November 21, 2020, 09:59:18 AM »
stupid cocksucker rump won't admit defeat, still cling to a thread in order to keep his ego hanging on, all this while thousands suffocate.

blows my mind. how spiritually bankrupt and brain dead to you have to be to do something like this?

no matter what he did in the last 4 years, people will only remember for how he acted as a complete a-hole in the face of a national health and economic disaster.

make America great again? yeah. how did that work out.
what an idiot. almost not even wasting words on. i hope someone ties him to a tree and lets a rhino screw him up the ass.


whoa, my grandma said this exact same thing!uncanny
"really fine players do not use stomp boxes or master volume, they match the amp to the room and turn it up to 11.  Stevie Ray, BB King, Albert King, Duane Allman, Dicky Betts, Louis Armstrong"
   -CJ

JohnRoberts

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1091 on: November 21, 2020, 10:59:00 AM »
Another way to look at it:

If this is a "war" against SARS-CoV-2, then there is a huge part of the population, led by their megalomaniacal narcissist, that is aiding and abetting the enemy by refusing to follow even the simple mitigation measures to try to defeat it. In a word, they are traitors. Why should the soldiers who are on the front lines of the conflict do anything for them? Let them die - at least that way they won't be spreading the virus to those who are fighting against it.

Harsh, I know, and they'd be hard to identify with certainty anyway.  :o
Yesterday at the post office I was the only customer wearing a mask and gloves, two other customers were maskless. I didn't ask them but from appearances they were not Trump supporters... (they clearly weren't white supremacists either).

There are dumbasses in both political parties, the right does not have a monopoly on ignorance and bad behavior, despite that world view in some partisan echo chambers.

Sad how politicized every single thing has become these days... This should die down eventually, but not for a while apparently.

JR   
It's nice to be nice....

crazydoc

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1092 on: November 21, 2020, 12:16:32 PM »
Yesterday at the post office I was the only customer wearing a mask and gloves, two other customers were maskless. I didn't ask them but from appearances they were not Trump supporters... (they clearly weren't white supremacists either).
POTUS Pants-on-fire has black supporters too, so your conclusion could be wrong. Dumbassdom crosses all racial lines.

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There are dumbasses in both political parties, the right does not have a monopoly on ignorance and bad behavior, despite that world view in some partisan echo chambers.
Maybe not a monopoly, but certainly a huge preponderance from all the evidence I have seen and heard.
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

iturnknobs

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1093 on: November 22, 2020, 08:51:59 AM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/texas-national-guard-el-paso-morgue-covid-19-overflow/

So is it "Freedom" or "support our troops"? Who do you stand with? Maybe the anti-maskers can start harassing the national guard for supporting fake news. Speak out against stupidity and anti-science. Silence is cooperation.
Election 2020.  For the people, not the money.

JohnRoberts

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1094 on: November 22, 2020, 09:40:03 AM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/texas-national-guard-el-paso-morgue-covid-19-overflow/

So is it "Freedom" or "support our troops"? Who do you stand with? Maybe the anti-maskers can start harassing the national guard for supporting fake news. Speak out against stupidity and anti-science. Silence is cooperation.
You can be difficult to follow sometimes...

Have you ever been to El Paso (or Juarez, right across the border in Mexico)? Taking a wild guess a large fraction of the covid patients overflowing the El Paso hospital system are mexicans who crossed the border for assistance after mexican hospitals collapsed.



Reportedly Arizona and CA border regions are seeing similar trends.

JR

PS: Back last century I toured a capacitor factory in Juarez as a guest of a Peavey vendor. They made the capacitor die in SC but had the labor intensive leads attached in Mexico, this was back when through hole parts were still used.
It's nice to be nice....

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1095 on: November 22, 2020, 10:49:45 AM »
Looks like Boris Johnson will ease lockdown restrictions over here for 5 or 6 days over Christmas so families can get together and celebrate.

Maybe we should also organize a friendly game of football with the virus in no man's land. 
D. J. H.

The standard way to reduce much of the noise and distortion in audio gear in 1955 was to have a couple of beers.
 Anything else was too fiddlesome and too expensive.

scott2000

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1096 on: November 22, 2020, 11:02:01 AM »
Makes me wonder why I see many commercials depicting normal life.... There's one circulating now showing a grandpa playing football with his grandson...Can't find it atm....

Here's one from Aetna showing good times..... Maybe not appropriate considering....who knows what the heck they're thinking....

Aetna Medicare Solutions – 2020 Grandpa :30 TV commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8PawC2FVU8

crazydoc

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1097 on: November 22, 2020, 11:57:24 AM »
Looks like Boris Johnson will ease lockdown restrictions over here for 5 or 6 days over Christmas so families can get together and superspread.
Fixed that for you.   ;D
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

crazydoc

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1098 on: November 22, 2020, 12:21:57 PM »
Have you ever been to El Paso (or Juarez, right across the border in Mexico)

Non-sequitor, but yes, and never liked it (El Paso) after being rousted by the police for vagrancy while sleeping in the Greyhound station on my way back from Mexico City in 1962. Had to produce a bus ticket out of there to avoid arrest.

A few years later rode from Boulder CO one night drunk and stoned to Juarez to see a bull fight the next day. My only lasting memory of it was vomiting out the window all over the side of the car.
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

hodad

Re: covid politics
« Reply #1099 on: November 22, 2020, 03:52:29 PM »
You can be difficult to follow sometimes...
I think he was referring to the attacks by certain conservatives on healthcare workers.  Will they continue these attacks now that troops (whom said conservatives always like to claim they "support") are being called upon to serve in the fight against COVID?  The cognitive dissonance ought to be crushing (but I doubt that folks who attack healthcare workers for doing their jobs have enough self-awareness to have any sense of cognitive dissonance.)
Taking a wild guess a large fraction of the covid patients overflowing the El Paso hospital system are mexicans who crossed the border for assistance after mexican hospitals collapsed.
Unlike you, I tried to find any solid evidence that your wild guess is correct.  Your "wild guess" seems to be getting some traction on febrile right wing sites; however, I see no mention of it in articles at more legitimate news sites.  I'm not saying it's not true (and there are likely a few Mexican citizens in El Paso hospitals), but I suspect that El Paso, a city of 800,000, is quite capable of filling its hospitals to overflowing without substantial international assistance. 


 

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