cyrano

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2020, 10:58:51 PM »
It seems the deplorable state of infrastructure is one often overlooked reason for fires. Even something as simple as a hook becomes dangerous after almost a cebtury, especially when the owner doesn't seem to care one bit:

https://twitter.com/TubeTimeUS/status/1306359385656946688
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?


crazydoc

Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

L´Andratté

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2020, 06:57:15 AM »
Scientists: climate change behind wildfires

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54278988
"Why not get an assistant to work the faders? Real vintage! And maybe cheaper... ;)"

scott2000

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2020, 09:03:52 AM »
I just returned from a road trip across the US from SF.... Driving down from San Francisco to Palm Springs was very eye opening to see the landscape. Shocking how dry much of the area is. It's like a thick layer of thatch or hay over a majority of the ground. Similar to here in FL during winter when all the smaller grass dies out. Looked pretty similar everywhere I drove....Curious how long the landscape in CA has been like this..
There are pictures from 30 years ago that look similar but who knows....
Driving through AZ,TX and New Mexico it's interesting to see the lack of trees along the I10....
 Those Palm Springs windmills are creepy as heck...EEsh.... How many homes do all those things power a year?
Miles of them....

Here's the Farmer's almanac for CA...

https://www.almanac.com/weather/history/CA/Palm%20Springs/1985-07-13





JohnRoberts

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2020, 11:19:41 AM »
I saw an article within the last week in WSJ talking about how some areas in the NW were trying to actively manage forests to reduce fuel and wildfire threats. In one section of northern California that suffered a huge fire in 2018 had millions allocated to clear dead trees but were held up waiting for state government paper work approvals, covid was also offered an an excuse for delays.

Academic now, the forest they were going to manage is now charcoal. Apparently it is also very easy to delay such forest management efforts for obscure environmental concerns.

There is a cost associated with bureaucratic delays. Apparently at least the people who were living inside burned out areas understand the cause and effect.

JR
Don't only half-ass tune your drums. Visit https://circularscience.com to hear what properly "cleared" drums sound like.

scott2000

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2020, 11:32:21 AM »
It was pretty crazy all the smoke across the parts of the state I drove through.... here's a random fire in Palm Springs just before the windmill farms... Guess some are generally  harmless as there isn't much aside from the ground cover to provide fuel.... I could see some pretty big fires up in the mountains here and there but really couldn't tell what the landscape actually looks like where they were burning..... But it's easy to see where the houses could be affected in some areas....
Still shocked to see the amount of "hay" across such a large area of a state.....fascinating....

Recording Engineer

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2020, 12:08:46 PM »
Yes, much of CA is hot, brown, and dry half the year no matter what, and has been compounded and exasperated by drought.

scott2000

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2020, 08:54:28 PM »
Yes, much of CA is hot, brown, and dry half the year no matter what, and has been compounded and exasperated by drought.

Yeah..it's crazy..... Reading a bit I see that water management has always been a thing there too. Too bad we can't figure out how to get excess water to people when they need it.... but we have disparities even within our state. Just 50 miles away, my parents' water situation is much different as are the bills which are 3 times what they are here.... weird...


JohnRoberts

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2020, 09:28:31 PM »
Yeah..it's crazy..... Reading a bit I see that water management has always been a thing there too. Too bad we can't figure out how to get excess water to people when they need it.... but we have disparities even within our state. Just 50 miles away, my parents' water situation is much different as are the bills which are 3 times what they are here.... weird...
sadly the next problem is mud slides when the rains come and the earth is unstable.

This isn't rocket science, but it requires thoughtful attention.

JR
Don't only half-ass tune your drums. Visit https://circularscience.com to hear what properly "cleared" drums sound like.

iturnknobs

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2020, 07:39:58 AM »
Forest management...

Trump denies "forest management" funding and relief. Enjoy Trump's "Divided(and misinformed) States of America." SHAME ON the USa.

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/10/september-2020-was-warmest-september-on-record-noaa-reports

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/trump-california-fire-disaster-assistance/index.html

Election 2020.  For the people, not the money.


JohnRoberts

Don't only half-ass tune your drums. Visit https://circularscience.com to hear what properly "cleared" drums sound like.

crazydoc

Re: West Coast Fires
« Reply #51 on: October 17, 2020, 12:47:59 PM »
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.


 

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