31cc7

Obsolete parts in new products
« on: October 09, 2020, 06:40:14 AM »
Hello

When some manufacturers claim that in their products they use vintage NOS parts that are long obsolete, how they are able to sell this equipment given that it wouldn't be RoHS compliant?

I am sorry if that is a stupid question.

Thank you


gyraf

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2020, 08:00:20 AM »
They can't, it's as simple as that.

It's like still all those still selling optical compressors - everyone in business says "just lie about it" or "pretend to be dumb" or "noone will notice"..

Note that there still is an exemption for NOS vacuum tubes, these are OK to use

/Jakob E.
..note to self: don't let Harman run your company..

ruffrecords

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2020, 08:02:19 AM »
AFAIK ROHS applies only in the EU. The rest of the world is not bound by it.

Cheers

Ian
www.customtubeconsoles.com
https://mark3vtm.blogspot.co.uk/
www.eztubemixer.blogspot.co.uk


'The only people not making mistakes are the people doing nothing'

gyraf

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2020, 08:30:50 AM »
yes. EU and california, I think..
..note to self: don't let Harman run your company..

JohnRoberts

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2020, 11:50:38 AM »
Hello

When some manufacturers claim that in their products they use vintage NOS parts that are long obsolete, how they are able to sell this equipment given that it wouldn't be RoHS compliant?

I am sorry if that is a stupid question.

Thank you
They self certify (i.e. lie).

but why in the world ever buy a SKU that you can't source repair parts for?

JR
Don't only half-ass tune your drums. Visit https://circularscience.com to hear what properly "cleared" drums sound like.

EmRR

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2020, 12:11:20 PM »

Note that there still is an exemption for NOS vacuum tubes, these are OK to use

/Jakob E.

People have found that selling tubes from US to Asia via ebay is forbidden using ebay worldwide shipping service. They screen and repack orders and RoHS-like standards are applied to goods. 
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

pucho812

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2020, 02:24:26 PM »
yes. EU and california, I think..

Yes, California.

As for using NOS obsolete parts, is this for audiophiles who claim mojo? Is it because they ripped off a design?  Or is it just a lie?
You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is.

EmRR

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2020, 03:04:11 PM »
Yes, California.

As for using NOS obsolete parts, is this for audiophiles who claim mojo? Is it because they ripped off a design?  Or is it just a lie?

Some people want historical replica down to every detail.  Like car people. 
Best,

Doug Williams
Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders

"I think this can be better. Some kind of control that's intuitive, not complicated like a single knob" - Crusty

"Back when everything sounde

pucho812

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2020, 05:16:26 PM »
Some people want historical replica down to every detail.  Like car people.

I just want it to work without hassle.  like when I was looking for HA4741's the other week
You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is.

JohnRoberts

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2020, 11:29:51 PM »
Some people want historical replica down to every detail.  Like car people.
I just did some repairs on my 23 year old car, but I used brand new parts.

JR
Don't only half-ass tune your drums. Visit https://circularscience.com to hear what properly "cleared" drums sound like.


31cc7

Re: Obsolete parts in new products
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2020, 04:46:35 AM »
That makes sense.

I've been thinking for example about germanium transistors etc., but I see that there may be companies still making these obsolete parts.


 

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