ruffrecords

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2021, 10:46:46 AM »
Ive been sporting a 'Grizzly Adams' style beard for a few years now too . You get used to the funny comments , 'Will you ever shave off the beard , your like something from the old testament'   ;D
 
I was thinking more of the hair on top. I have the beard - at least that bit of hair keeps growing - but my receding hair line is nearly over the horizon. I was hoping the jab might reverse that trend.

Cheers

Ian
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crazydoc

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2021, 12:24:54 PM »
My shot was at the local health dept - I called them last week and got on the >75 list, and they called Monday with an appt for yesterday. All done by paper and pen since we're in the boonies and modern technology is lagging a little here (this is the "trumpiest county" in CA -75% vote for him). Filled out the paperwork with about 15 people in a 10x15 foot room (but all wearing masks - mandatory), taken to another room filled with partitioned booths for individuals, got the shot, 15 min wait to see if I'd die, then reappointment in 4 weeks for the second dose. In all took about 45 minutes, plus 1 hour round trip drive. I'm satisfied.

Glad you liked the pic - that was about 15 years ago. I see I was wearing my glasses with the DIY thumb tack nose pads. I bought a webcam a couple of months ago for zooming with the kids - here's the first still  I've used it for, taken a few minutes ago - still crazy after all these years. That's my favorite drug on the shirt. The bass in back is my practice one I made from an old table and floorboards about 10 years ago.
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

JohnRoberts

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2021, 01:45:20 PM »
My shot was at the local health dept - I called them last week and got on the >75 list, and they called Monday with an appt for yesterday. All done by paper and pen since we're in the boonies and modern technology is lagging a little here (this is the "trumpiest county" in CA -75% vote for him). Filled out the paperwork with about 15 people in a 10x15 foot room (but all wearing masks - mandatory), taken to another room filled with partitioned booths for individuals, got the shot, 15 min wait to see if I'd die, then reappointment in 4 weeks for the second dose. In all took about 45 minutes, plus 1 hour round trip drive. I'm satisfied.

Glad you liked the pic - that was about 15 years ago. I see I was wearing my glasses with the DIY thumb tack nose pads. I bought a webcam a couple of months ago for zooming with the kids - here's the first still  I've used it for, taken a few minutes ago - still crazy after all these years. That's my favorite drug on the shirt. The bass in back is my practice one I made from an old table and floorboards about 10 years ago.
Congrats on getting your jab... About the only time in history when being older than me was a benefit.
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Another adjustment to federal vaccine distribution is to ration less doses to the states not effectively getting their vaccine doses into arms, and more doses to the more effective states.

Future vaccines will be less temperature sensitive so at less risk of complete loss when the states delay and/or mishandle it.

On Jan 12th Health and Human services secretary Azar urged states to start immunizing people 65 years and older.

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I just checked my local situation. The state dept of health website said that all doses for January have already been allocated, but will be making new appointments for vaccinations after new supplies arrive, expected mid February.

JR
It's nice to be nice....

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2021, 03:07:07 PM »
Luckily I have a full head of hair up top still , not sure if its dna or the low stress life Ive lived  , maybe a combination of both.

I never tried the Sandoz variety LSD, Psylocybin found in the liberty cap mushroom here I have on a few occasions.

I find this excuse for not recording vaccinations on a computer based system at best suspicious , if we cant cross reference who's already found to be positive for covid against the list of people that are to get the vax were wasting it on people , not only that but there are some suggestions vaxing people who already have immunity through infection could actually be causing new variants to emerge . Ive heard some opinions that say in the event of a catastrophic fail of a vaccine we wont even have the evidence to figure out what went wrong or hold the makers to account if their science turns out bad. Aside from keeping a 'plausible deniabillity' card up their slieve , big pharma wont easily leave go of the goose that lays the golden egg thats for sure. I'd be very interested to hear if this pen and paper recording of vaccinations is happening anywhere else.

crazydoc

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2021, 03:54:50 PM »
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I find this excuse for not recording vaccinations on a computer based system at best suspicious
I'm absolutely sure there is someone in another room entering the data (by law) from the paper into a computer linked to the California Immunization Registry, where all immunizations are tracked.
This is the one for CA covid - I'm sure all US states have them, and probably most other countries.

http://cairweb.org/covid/

Participating vaccinators must:
   1.  Report COVID-19 doses administered within 24 hrs of administration to your local immunization registry (IIS) (e.g. CAIR2, Healthy Futures, or SDIR)

    2.  Report COVID-19 doses in inventory daily to the VaccineFinder website.

    3.  Submit race and ethnicity information for every vaccinated patient.



It makes sense that it is much faster to have people fill out their info on paper and get their shot, then have it entered later, rather than have a line waiting to be processed at a terminal. I suppose they could set up a bunch of kiosks, but waiting for that to happen is more time and expense.

edit: Oh, and it's always good to have a paper trail so one group can't be accused by another of "stealing the vaccination" or "vaccination fraud."
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ruffrecords

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2021, 09:40:25 AM »
My neighbour who is 76 had the call to get his jab. Fair enough. But then his wife who is 71 and generally fit also got the call. Then there is me, 70, classed as clinically extremely vulnerable and I have not had the call yet. Or is the surgery just doing it alphabetically? Their surname starts with a C and mine with a T.

Cheers

Ian
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JohnRoberts

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2021, 11:11:26 AM »
My neighbour who is 76 had the call to get his jab. Fair enough. But then his wife who is 71 and generally fit also got the call. Then there is me, 70, classed as clinically extremely vulnerable and I have not had the call yet. Or is the surgery just doing it alphabetically? Their surname starts with a C and mine with a T.

Cheers

Ian
My state health department advises that we need to make appointments to get vaccinated, but not to bother until mid Feb when they expect the next shipment of vaccine doses.

I suspect the squeaky wheel will get oiled first, but I haven't started squeaking yet.

JR
It's nice to be nice....

crazydoc

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2021, 12:25:15 PM »
My neighbour who is 76 had the call to get his jab. Fair enough. But then his wife who is 71 and generally fit also got the call. Then there is me, 70, classed as clinically extremely vulnerable and I have not had the call yet. Or is the surgery just doing it alphabetically? Their surname starts with a C and mine with a T.

Cheers

Ian
My wife is 72, has multiple high risk medical co-morbidities, on the list since last week but not appointed yet. Now the local age limit has just been dropped to >65 - I will be pissed if I see that healthy 65 year olds are being vaccinated before she is. Go figure. I think some of the local decision makers are probably peter-principled.
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

crazydoc

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2021, 12:59:56 PM »
The advice I've seen is use the monoclonal antibody early in the course of treatment to completely avoid hospitalization
JR
Doesn't really belong in the vaccine thread, but since it's been discussed here, here's another link.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/why-a-drug-therapy-that-could-ease-record-covid-hospitalizations-has-gone-largely-unused/ar-BB1cMgB4?ocid=bingcovid

It's really unclear to me why it's not being used, except that it's to avoid future serious disease and death, and needs to be given when the patient is still feeling well. With the potential risks that need to be explained to the patient for "informed consent", many are probably not likely to accept  it, thinking they'll be one of the majority that don't get very sick.
Luckily, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
The secret of happiness is having low expectations.

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2021, 01:27:04 PM »
I managed to get my parents booked in for the vaccine next week, my dad is 93, my mum 87.   
I couldn't get appointments on the same day for them which is fine, I'll be taking them for the appointments myself.   
I was told to ask while there if there are any doses not accounted for in the batch they have on the day (it's happened apparently) and, if so, I'd possibly be able to get it at the same time.  I'm 54.   
I absolutely won't take a dose that a care-worker or 70+ person could have had before me, but if it's there for the taking in lieu of being wasted, fine.
Dates for the second jab appointment are currently 12 weeks after the first in my area, hopefully to ensure more folks get an initial jab. 

Sending good thoughts that all our older members manage to get appointments soon
 
   
 
D. J. H.


Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2021, 01:39:01 PM »
Never done LSD as I always thought the fabric between sanity and insanity in my particular case might be a little flimsy.  'Shrooms made me puke!  But medical grade MDMA was nice.

My second wife was (is?) the daughter of Augustus Owsley Stanley III (Bear) so I've been around and am down with the scene.
D. J. H.

Squeaky

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2021, 02:26:51 PM »
Never done LSD as I always thought the fabric between sanity and insanity in my particular case might be a little flimsy.  'Shrooms made me puke!  But medical grade MDMA was nice.

My second wife was (is?) the daughter of Augustus Owsley Stanley III (Bear) so I've been around and am down with the scene.

Had to look him up. It is pretty easy to go "troppo" in North Queensland (which is where he spent his last days), quite a mad scene. I (vaguely) remember playing a "Woodstock" festival (there is a small town just south of Townsville called Woodstock - it was some sort of solstice festival) in the mid nineties. The stage was a semi-trailer flat bed. Everyone there was completely off their chops on booze, uppers and psychedelics. I remember the dust kicking up from the seething roiling mass of people. No one slept that night.

Squeaky

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2021, 02:28:13 PM »
I also thought the stage was electrocuting me.

Squeaky

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2021, 02:29:19 PM »
Apparently I tried to give my guitar away to someone who looked like Jesus the next morning.

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2021, 02:38:54 PM »
Apparently I tried to give my guitar away to someone who looked like Jesus the next morning.
   
Sounds like a splendid time was had by all :D

Was the show recorded at all?   
D. J. H.

cyrano

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2021, 02:44:50 PM »
My wife is 72, has multiple high risk medical co-morbidities, on the list since last week but not appointed yet. Now the local age limit has just been dropped to >65 - I will be pissed if I see that healthy 65 year olds are being vaccinated before she is. Go figure. I think some of the local decision makers are probably peter-principled.

Perhaps they're just cautious?

23 people died in Norway, one day after vaccination.

https://legemiddelverket.no/nyheter/covid-19-vaccination-associated-with-deaths-in-elderly-people-who-are-frail
Why is it people love to believe and hate to know?

Squeaky

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2021, 03:12:45 PM »
   
Sounds like a splendid time was had by all :D

Was the show recorded at all?

Not officially, at least as far as I am aware. I know there were some photos taken. We somehow snagged the headline spot so the crowd was primed and was really digging us (they would have been digging anything I believe). We had some mad North Queensland mates who might well have been in touch with Augustus. I bet he was at the festival!

I also remember jamming with a band, the next morning, who reminded me a lot of Pink Floyd from their "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" days.

We were also up there (North Queensland), would you believe, for the final of the Queensland battle of the bands (we didn't win).

Apologies for the thread derailing. Back to vaccines and the like.

JohnRoberts

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2021, 03:14:25 PM »
I managed to get my parents booked in for the vaccine next week, my dad is 93, my mum 87.   
I couldn't get appointments on the same day for them which is fine, I'll be taking them for the appointments myself.   
I was told to ask while there if there are any doses not accounted for in the batch they have on the day (it's happened apparently) and, if so, I'd possibly be able to get it at the same time.  I'm 54.   
I absolutely won't take a dose that a care-worker or 70+ person could have had before me, but if it's there for the taking in lieu of being wasted, fine.

apparently the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine vendor is slightly overfilling the vials with extra doses or extra fractions of a dose. It seems logical to use these extra doses, or combine extra fractions into full doses.   
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Dates for the second jab appointment are currently 12 weeks after the first in my area, hopefully to ensure more folks get an initial jab. 
the recommended delay for pfizer's second dose is 21 days or more, Moderna is 28 days, but just getting the first shot provides partial immunity. If short of vaccine that might be a quicker path to herd immunity.

It is unclear from the news coverage what the the actual critical constraints are. By the end of the year I expect we will have vaccine doses coming out of our ears, and we will be able to get jabbed at the corner drug store.

JR
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Sending good thoughts that all our older members manage to get appointments soon
 
   
 
It's nice to be nice....

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2021, 03:24:10 PM »

Apologies for the thread derailing

Doc's T-Shirt already derailed the thread, which is fine by me. 
I liked reading your story mate, thanks :)
D. J. H.

Re: The Vaccine
« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2021, 03:32:32 PM »
apparently the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine vendor is slightly overfilling the vials with extra doses or extra fractions of a dose. It seems logical to use these extra doses, or combine extra fractions into full doses.   

Ah right, that makes sense.  I think that's exactly what the lady on the phone here was trying to say.

the recommended delay for pfizer's second dose is 21 days or more, Moderna is 28 days, but just getting the first shot provides partial immunity. If short of vaccine that might be a quicker path to herd immunity.

Yep, there have been some concerns here over the 12 weeks between jabs, but from what I understand, most of the immunity will be provided with the first dose.

Anyway, good luck with getting your shot as soon as possible in February, be the squeaky wheel if you have to.
D. J. H.