I find them flat and boring as compared to the trident pre's/eqs that I;ve used. Fairly similar in sound, but uninspiring. Anyway, I heard from an ex-Trident employee that Malcolm Toft got his eq circuit from a HiFi magazine! Oram only came on the scene later, if i am correctly informed. Mr Neve had been making gear for more than a decade before Tofty, I believe, so just How does that make Mr Oram the Father of British EQ? Until Trident outside of the fab desks made by the record companies(EMI/Pye/Decca), most records had been made on Helios and Cadac, and rarities such as Sound Techniques, With Neve being mostly in Broadcast early on. So where do Dick Swettenham, Clive Green, Rupert Neve, Cyril Jones, etc etc figure in his scheme of things? I would figure that someone like Mr Baxendall probably qualifies higher . . . . [/img][/i]