Anybody use Osmond for mac os?

[Fredrik]

I have installed Osmond recently and are trying to figure out how to use it properly.

I have tried to start a new design with the basic part list available for download, this does not include any information an how things are supposed to be connected obviously, is this necessary? The connect function does not seem to work if the program is missing information on the connections.

I´ve looked in the reference manual and it seems to suggest that the user have to set this up prior to opening the program by text files that resembles html code or something. :roll:

I have had a look at Designworks and Eagle as well, but I´m using mac os so I have to use x11 to be able to execute Eagle.

 

[Sleeper]

Hi, I use Osmond a fair amount, but I don't use the ratsnest-interconnection setting.
You are right, you do have to configure the text files correctly and import them for this to work. all that typing takes the fun out of it IMO.

For smaller boards, like guitar effects and little modules, power supplies etc. this is a pretty good program- it outputs nicely, though I only output postscript files for home etching, haven't tried gerbers etc. out of this program.

the program requires a fair number of modifier keys shift option etc. when dragging, moving and connecting parts. If you learn those it's pretty fast.

If you are going to be doing heavy design I'd probably spend time learning something else, You should really get windows running on your mac.

For little stuff- well, it's free and the learning curve isn't too steep and it installs very easily.

Kelly

 

[Fredrik]

[quote author="Sleeper"]Hi, I use Osmond a fair amount, but I don't use the ratsnest-interconnection setting.
You are right, you do have to configure the text files correctly and import them for this to work. all that typing takes the fun out of it IMO. [/quote]

Thanks Kelly,

I have been using the pen tool to make the connections between parts, the downside of this is that the connections don´t "snap" to their positions and this makes it tedious to move parts around.

How are you doing it?

I don´t care for the ratsnest function to much but I would love to be able to move stuff around.

 

[Fredrik]

:shock:

OK, I got it now..

I have to cmd click to get the connect tool to work. It will be sufficient enough for my intentions right now. :grin:

 

[SSLtech]

What does Osmond do?

-Does it give you shiny teeth and turn you into a Mormon, or something?

-Do you start doing endorsements for MCI consoles?

-Is it something I need?

Keef

 

[Sleeper]

What does Osmond do?

It used to be the only freeware pcb design stuff for mac i could find that didn't make you do some wierd macOS-Unix freakout in order to make it work.

-Does it give you shiny teeth and turn you into a Mormon, or something?

its free so it won't nibble into the dollars you've been saving up for clean white shirts and bike helmets

-Do you start doing endorsements for MCI consoles?

It helps you make nice clean traces. much better than the unclean ones my sister forced me to scrub off of my brothers magic underwear... would that be considered an endorsement?

-Is it something I need?

maybe. but it's not as good as having a go-to cache of coffee and liquor hidden under the stairs.

Best
Jimmie

 

[electronaut]

I've been a diehard Osmond fan for a few years now, and I've made many PCBs with it, both hand-etched by outputting postscript as well as using gerbers and board houses.

Osmond rules!

I HIGHLY recommend taking the time to go through the tutorial. I tried to intuit my way through the program the first time I downloaded it, and gave up shortly after that. A month or so later, I went through the tutorial and realized how easy it is to use.

Osmond is simple to use, makes fully compliant Gerber files, and works like a charm!

-E.

 

[SSLtech]

[quote author="electronaut"]I've been a diehard Osmond fan for a few years now[/quote]
..I KNEW it...!!! :twisted:

Here's something for you!

Keef

 

[Fredrik]

Ha ha ha!! :green:

That was very funny OMG,


Electronaut:


Are you using the parts/Netlist functions? I read the tutorioal but I thought it was a bit unclear with this as all examples came with preconfigured lists.

I think I am an aspiring fan of Osmond (the computer app :green too actually, you cant argue with the price.


Keith:


I´m trying to mess around with this filter > eq idea, hence Osmond. I found an old thread with the Nemek Idea you had, to avoid the dual rev log pots, cool.

 

[Sleeper]

right keef
there isn't much to say about the mormonhorsewhinneyguitar except for wow
awesome.

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Actually, that bit of simulation has me thinking.
I've never used a circuit simulator... do those export text lists?
that might be a straight ahead import into osmond.

Kelly

 

[amorris]

crazy horses, wow, I think i just freaked out alittle bit. now that was a flash back.

my first concert. 4 years old? before i moved to FLA when i was 6...

that song kinda rocks, oh no, did i just say that out loud!?!?!?

 

[Fredrik]

[quote author="Sleeper"]
I've never used a circuit simulator... do those export text lists?
that might be a straight ahead import into osmond.

Kelly[/quote]

Me neither, but I think designworks pro can generate netlists, its not free and I have no idea if osmond will accept the format. Interesting idea though worth investigating further.

 

[SSLtech]

[quote author="Sleeper"]mormonhorsewhinneyguitar[/quote]
Actually, it's a keyboard. Even as a child I was an electro-geek. I remember them saying in an interview at the time that it was something new that they saw and asked specifically if it could be incorporated into a keyboard for them.

basically it's a touch-strip just like the one which ended up integrated into the synclavier, but with an extended range. It's assigned to control pitch, just like a pitch wheel.

When they got the keyboard with it on, they played with it, discovered that it basically only did one trick (alowing you to slip, slide & wobble) and that it always ended up sounding like some sort of mad horse... and that's how "Crazy Horses" ended up being written. (May have been exaggerated for the interview, but it sounds feasible.)

Certainly, the first time I saw one on the Synclavier, I immediately tried to play "Crazy Horses" on it... :twisted:

-So does 'Osmond' (the computer app) make you develop things that end up being dated and kitschy? :wink: :grin: :razz:

Keef

 

[electronaut]

[quote author="Fredrik"]Are you using the parts/Netlist functions? I read the tutorioal but I thought it was a bit unclear with this as all examples came with preconfigured lists.[/quote]

Sorry Fredrik... I haven't used any of the netlist functions. I made all my own libraries one afternoon, as a sort of "exercise", knowing that by the time I was finished, I'd be FAST in Osmond!

I usually just make a manual "rats nest" type mess first, then arrange all the parts into a nice non-mess.

-E.

 

[PRR]

> information on the connections. ... by text files that resembles html code or something.

Like this?

* Schematics Netlist *

Q_Q1         $N_0002 $N_0001 $N_0003 Q2N2222
R_R1         0 $N_0003  41  
R_R2         0 $N_0001  510  
R_R3         $N_0001 $N_0004  9.1K  
R_R4         $N_0002 $N_0004  1.65K  
R_R5         0 $N_0005  106  
V_V1         $N_0004 0 15V
Q_Q2         $N_0004 $N_0002 $N_0005 Q2N2222

This describes the connections among a Voltage source, two transistors, and five resistors.

Each part has 2 (or 3) leads.

Each lead connects to a "node", which is a wire (possibly long and many-branched).

Voltage source V1 is re-named V_V1 for no apparent reason. One side is grounded and ground is node "0". The other side might be node 4, but this program likes to make it node N_004.

Node N_004 also connects to one end of R3 and one end of R4 and one leg of Q2.

In the OLD days, we would draw the schematic on paper, number the parts, number the nodes, jot down what node connected to each part-pin, jot a line about each part listing its nodes and its value, and punch each "line" on a separate punch-card. This is the input to a SPICE engine, a very old FORTRAN program all documented in terms of cards and decks (though when I used it, it was ported to C and we used text files).

I got this file with a "Schematic Capture" program, which is a damsite less brain-strain than sketching, jotting, and punching.

The NetList fully describes the connections, but not the layout, either on schematic or on a board. A much smarter program can best-fit the NetList to schematic or board layout, but a dumb interpretation will give an incomprehensible schematic and a bad layout.

 

[Sleeper]

Hi Keef,
Osmond helps me make the things I've been learning about and how to do on this forum...
A boatload of stuff from guys like you and PRR and many others, so If I'm making old and kitschy stuff you had better take your share of the blame for that. :wink: word.


PRR, the netlist is like what you have there, except one has to match part numbers to correct library names...

I tried it and I'm just not organized or patient enough to do it.
My 16 track studio is nearly done, a few more compressors and I'm totally covered for the way I want to record

I like doing point to point on osmond, you pull parts out of a bin and lay them out, attach things where they're supposed to go etc.
Anyhing more than that and it's best to invest a little money in software anyhow and get something that really lays out a board. I've seen a friend who designs for market, his setup cost about 800 dollars, can't remember what it's called, not protel, but it was amazing, fully integrated support from schematic to libraries that work and super great auto layout, he only has to make smart small changes and the stuff sounds great.

Kelly