Booster Shot

[analag]

How do you pro vaccine group feel about the "Booster shot"

 

[JohnRoberts]

I am thinking about it since I am in the authorized "old man" risk group... I do not feel as motivated as for the first two jabs.

JR

 

[crazydoc]

I'll take it when available - benefit/risk ratio seems sky high, as in the initial vaccinations. I don't think Bill Gates has much interest in tracking me.

 

[living sounds]

I'l take it as soon as I can get it.

 

[iturnknobs]

I'll take it if recommended to do so, just like the shot(s) in the arm I received in the elementary school gymnasium in a time long, long ago, before it was something to be argued about.

 

[pucho812]

As a person who got the shot and the second dose, I am holding off on the third. let others get it first and see how it plays out.

 

[Script]

Good thinking it seems if not in any high risk group. Vaccination coverage in what formerly was called 'third world' is still extremely low.

 

[ruffrecords]

In the UK the plan is to give it to the over 65s at the same time as the winter flu shot. I will be taing mine when it is offered.

Cheers

Ian

 

[topcat]

I'll be taking the booster as a retired person.... All the evidence that I have seen and understood shows that the benefits far outway the risks.
The people I have met here who are anti booster (for targeted groups) are unable to articulate any reasonable reason why it's a bad idea with a reputable vaccine.

tc

 

[JohnRoberts]

CDC advice for booster shots, when available for high risk groups is to wait 8 months after second jab (of Moderna or Pfizer), so no hurry for moi.

They are still researching J&J data since it lagged the other vaccines by a couple month.

JR

 

[Script]

In Japan there's talk about administering a smaller dose for the third, especiaally wrt moderna, to keep side reactions low yet achieve comparable/sufficient effectiveness.

 

[JohnRoberts]

Yes, talk of smaller doses for children and boosters.

I heard that they were having trouble getting enough pregnant woman to participate in vaccine trials.

JR

 

[JohnRoberts]

It sounds like they approved Moderna boosters, and pulled in the wait period from 8 months to 6 months after second jab, so I am now eligible. I feel less urgency this time around. I was hoping they might have combo flu shots by now, but not yet. I don't routinely get flu shots.

My older brother got his Pfizer booster and said the booster affected him more than either of the first two Pfizer jabs.

JR

 

[Script]

Booster might be a tougher ride for some -- good if close to home, I guess. In Japan, moderna (more spike content) has caused more side-effects than Pfizer. Japanese people are small and thin on average.

Do they do cross-vaccination in the US ? They do in some EU countries (mRNA and AZ). Not so in Japan. However, x-vaccination is common with other vaccines (children) and in 'travel medicine' (i.e. people getting first or follow-up shot in different country).

In Japan it's eligibility for booster exactly after 8 months. Makes me wonder whether they'll have a vaccine update by then -- considering that 'making' the AZ jab, for example, took only 14 days (cos was based on preexisting technology for sars-1 and ebola) but approval took that long cos it went the full official way.

 

[CJ]

booster will be nuthin compared to the combination shingles/hi octane flu shot i had the other day, made me sick as a dog with muscle aches, fever, nausea,

the nurse told me she had two versions, one normal flu and one extra strength, like an idiot i went for the gusto and paid heavily. maybe the flu alone would have been ok, but two jabs for two different things was not the way to go. i was just trying to save another trip to the voodoo lounge.

 

[JohnRoberts]

I heard one suggestion that using a moderna booster on top of J&J initial vac generates an exponential increase in immune response...

JR

 

[boji]

shingles/hi octane flu shot i had the other day, made me sick as a dog with muscle aches, fever, nausea

Family member told me the same story few days ago but said it was just for a shingles.

 

[hodad]

I heard one suggestion that using a moderna booster on top of J&J initial vac generates an exponential increase in immune response...

JR

The number (using a regular Moderna shot and not their half-dose booster) was something like a 75 times greater immune response. I personally am curious about doing the opposite--a J&J booster on top of an mrna vax. I doubt it would create a similar increase, but it might be helpful with long term protection. I have yet to see any research on that, unfortunately.

 

[kazper]

I’ll get the boost on Thursday or Friday and mixed vendors if the CDC allows when I rollup the sleeve.

 

[JohnRoberts]

The number (using a regular Moderna shot and not their half-dose booster) was something like a 75 times greater immune response. I personally am curious about doing the opposite--a J&J booster on top of an mrna vax. I doubt it would create a similar increase, but it might be helpful with long term protection. I have yet to see any research on that, unfortunately.

The general advice is for everyone who got J&J vaccines, is to use a different mrna booster shot, that delivers a stronger immune response than using another J&J booster. I understand the concept of covering more bases using a different vaccine technology but if their immune response measurements are meaningful it doesn't seem that beneficial if at all to use J&J booster on top of a mrna vax.

Back when we were getting first jabs I wanted to use J&J because it was the more conservative conventional (viral vector) approach.

I still find it hard to trust news because of all the political spin and suppression of negative news. So far the worst anti-vax rants appear inaccurate (I'm still alive).

JR