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Message: [QUOTE="JohnRoberts, post: 1013406, member: 4409"] This was certainly true several decades ago, now not so much IMO. I outfitted my test bench with serviceable equipment by assembling Heathkit gear back in the 70s. Today a lot of that functionality can be covered with new technology gear for a tiny fraction of the former cost. I recall selling a few of my big split (AMR) consoles into NYC last century and heard about studio customers covering the Peavey markings with black tape to not degrade the sonic expectations of their clientele. As I have shared already manufacturing technology has advanced in the decades since some of these classic legacy clone targets were current such that a modern version that doesn't suck could be manufactured and sold for fraction of the old price (adjusted for inflation). While at Peavey we designed two such modern classics, a tube mic preamp (VMP) and a tube limiter (VCL). IMO these jewels, hidden in plain sight, never received the recognition they deserved because of their negative association with a successful value brand. Trust me I did enough work in product management to understand the intricacies and quirks of brand management, i.e. you can't be two things in the consumer's mind at the same time. [edit- ironically perhaps AMR was supposed to be perceived as a different brand than Peavey, but they screwed that up, long story /edit] Yup, back in the 70s/80s I had two different friends who designed and built their own recording consoles (in CT) while operating successful studios. Indeed the gear is rarely the limiting factor for making good sound. Electronic advancements over the decades have made it even cheaper to approach effectively noiseless and linear audio paths. It used to be difficult to design low noise mic preamps and compressors, now its just connecting the dots using manufacturer's app notes. JR [/QUOTE]

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