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A "frequency selective voltmeter" is used for what?

I came across an old Philco transistor version (model 129a).

Any specific audio/power testing uses?

(yes, it's physicaly a beast :shock: )

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Actually a frequency selective voltmeter is nothing more than a radio reciever with a meter on the output. As a real job, I have worked for AT&T for the past 30 years, and we used selective voltmeters to "dial up" individual carriers in multiplex carrier systems. You had a number of frequency bands usually starting down around 10 KHz up to around 1800 KHz. You could choose a bandpass wide enough to isolate a signal, such as a Group Pilot to make sure your levels were good. Likewise, you could select a single channel out of many and demodulate the audio of a telephone circuit and check for level, noise, etc. We mostly used meters from HP, but also had a few from Philco/ Sierra, and those had a Panoramic Display which was sort of a spectrum display showing all the carriers in the group you were looking at. This was before all telco stuff went digital, and made the selective voltmeter obsolete. I have one that was thrown away, and used it to play around with listening to the "dawn chorus" and other atmospheric stuff. With all telco stuff being digital T-streams today, we look at everything using a spec-an, usually a HP 8363 or a 8566, since we don't need to actually listen to how a circuit sounds.
 
You are probably thinking of the HP 334A or 339A Distortion Measuring set which has the big frequency dial on the right and the meter on the left of the front panel. I have a 339A on my bench and it works well down to about .003% distortion.
By the way, as far as I know, AT&T sold all their towers to ATC, who now lease them out as cell repeater sites, etc. AT&T shut down the last microwave several years ago. Everything is fiber now, and I fear someday they will regret getting rid of all the radios, then again, I'm an old microwave tech. Oh, there's still lots of microwave stuff out there, just none being used by AT&T due to maintenance cost and bandwidth limitations of the digital radios. Lots cheaper to stick a bunch of fiber in the ground.
 
Here it is, on my desk, including the manual w/schematics and calibration instructions:
Philco/Seirra 129a
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Range is 10 cycles to 100kc.
Includes an oscillator, which can be used as a tracking oscillator.
Output with level control.
It powers up, and it's super clean, no missing knobs.
It does have a rechargable battery (nickel cadmium), which I have not tested to see if it will hold a charge (old, but not leaking :sam: ).
On the backplate, it does mention "Wave Analyzer" in the title.

Interesting, the manual describes the PSU/battery.....that the battery is connected across the psu outputs, keeping it charged and helping to regulate the 12v power.
Is this method of a battery on the output ever used for audio based psu's ? ...and is it worth investigating? Is it effective?

Actually a frequency selective voltmeter is nothing more than a radio reciever with a meter on the output.
Does this mean I can use a multiband radio as a voltmeter? :green:

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Does this mean I can use a multiband radio as a voltmeter?

That is what a signal strength or "S" meter is. The main points about a Freq Selective Voltmeter is that it has the ability to filter the signal with variable bandwidth filters so you can measure power at specific frequencies. Back in the days of analog multiplex carrier systems, you would have a 12 channel group and a group pilot. This would be stacked, or multiplexed, on top of other 12 channel groups. Each vioce channel was 4 KHz wide, and would start at 12KHz. In other words, the first 4KHz wide channel would run from 12KHz to 16KHz. Channel 2 would go from 16KHz up to 20KHz, and so forth. A selective voltmeter would allow you to set the bandwidth to, for instance, 3.6KHz so you could dial up an individule channel and take tone and noise measurements on a single channel instead of reading all the channels at once, which is what a "flat" unfiltered voltmeter would do. Also, the selective voltmeter was calibrated so you could measuse levels to make sure they were correct.
Since virtually all telco transmission has gone from analog to digital, this equipment is obsolete, and a spectrum analyzer is now used to look at levels from modems. Individule channels can be broken out and looked at with a T1 test set to look at different time slots, the equivalent of the 4 KHz voice channel of the old analog carrier system.
The Philco/ Sierra stuff is built like a tank. I scrapped an old model 128 a few years back, and the tuning capacitor was in a cast housing with a fancy gear reduction system. They were very good back in their time, but less expensive than the stuff HP made.
 
Before "S" meters there were R meters made by RME... "S" turned to be a more successfull clone... :cool:
 
By the way, you notice the 4 screws where the frequency dial is? You could put different modules in there to change what range of frequencies you wanted to cover. Sort of like the old HP freq counter that had different plug-ins for different frequency ranges.
 
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