How to add thick grease to an Encoder Knob for better "feel"

[Phrazemaster]

Hi everyone, it's been ages since I've posted here; how are you all?

I'm designing a fader unit and I'm going to use an optical rotary encoder to access menu items (it's a fancy fader). However, I'm looking for an upgraded encoder knob "feel". I ran across one of @PRR's old posts (I don't think he's here anymore

Anyway, he talked about adding grease, thick grease, to give a more "premium" feel to an encoder rotation.

I am trying to figure out how to do this without actually opening the optical rotary encoder. I've thought of just adding a metal washer and putting the grease in between the bottom of the encoder knob and the top of the fader panel, but I'm pretty sure centrifugal force will push out the grease over time making a big mess.

Is there any simple or elegant way to do this right? I have tried to think of adding "channel" or grooves in the washer to keep the grease in, but this too seems doomed to failure...

See my lame pix attempts - the grease won't stay in there for sure.

Thanks everyone; I love this forum.

Mike

 

[Phrazemaster]

PS also, if there's some basic premade part I can use here, please share. I don't think a bearing would work...Or if there's a certain kind of grease that would work well. It would have to be fairly thick though...

Thanks again creative minds

 

[Rusan]

In place of a washer, how about a thin O-ring smeared with a dab of mineral oil or grease to lubricate it? Just a thought.

 

[JohnRoberts]

I would advise caution about putting grease inside an electrical control.

JR

 

[OneRoomStudio]

Another option is a felt washer. I’ve used them under knobs before to make a loose pot feel tighter.

 

[GeorgeToledo]

It sounds like you’re thinking of white lithium grease. I agree with John though!

 

[Phrazemaster]

I would advise caution about putting grease inside an electrical control.

JR

Would not be going inside the rotary encoder at all. Nothing inside an electrical control.

The diagram you saw was my own 3D mock-up of the situation, my own encoder knob and a washer.

The encoder would never be opened and it’s shaft would go through the washer and into the encoder knob,

Grease would never get into anything electrical.

Thx JR and George, and thx everyone.

I’m looking to incorporate the grease to provide a lovely “feel” that a felt washer won’t give. It will be a very thick grease. I’m just concerned it will slowly leak out of the space between the encoder knob and the washer.

If there’s a way to contain it somehow that would be amazing . I can design and CNC a part.

 

[thelivingroom]

Hi everyone, it's been ages since I've posted here; how are you all?

I'm designing a fader unit and I'm going to use an optical rotary encoder to access menu items (it's a fancy fader). However, I'm looking for an upgraded encoder knob "feel". I ran across one of @PRR's old posts (I don't think he's here anymore

Anyway, he talked about adding grease, thick grease, to give a more "premium" feel to an encoder rotation.

I am trying to figure out how to do this without actually opening the optical rotary encoder. I've thought of just adding a metal washer and putting the grease in between the bottom of the encoder knob and the top of the fader panel, but I'm pretty sure centrifugal force will push out the grease over time making a big mess.

Is there any simple or elegant way to do this right? I have tried to think of adding "channel" or grooves in the washer to keep the grease in, but this too seems doomed to failure...

See my lame pix attempts - the grease won't stay in there for sure.

Thanks everyone; I love this forum.

Mike


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Lately I’ve been adding O-rings on the shaft, between the knob and bushing, to create some resistance and improve the feel of some pots. Seems to be getting harder and harder to find metal shaft C-P pots that feel good these days, so it’s the best I’ve come up with to polish the plastic shaft turds.

 

[Phrazemaster]

Here's another couple photos for more clarity.




The encoder is the red cylinder.