monster pro 3500 vs 7000

[Skiroy]

I was perfectly prepared to buy the Monster 7000 as recommended on this forum to solve a portion of my power issues but then i stumbled on a Pro 3500 at Guitar center for only a fraction of the cost of a 7000. So the question is,
what about the 7000 is worth the extra cash? Do they not do the exact same thing as far far as filtering,surge protection and voltage regulation against sags and high voltage? I could get 3 3500s for the cost of one 7000.

 

[sodderboy]

Still workin' on your power?

The first thing is that the 7000 is signed by Noel Lee.  That alone gives an extra 6 dB of noise suppression.

Other than that the 7000 is a balanced power unit, conditioner, and sequencer whereas the 3500 is only conditioning.  Neither is a stabilizer. 
Mike

 

[Skiroy]

Still workin' on your power?

The first thing is that the 7000 is signed by Noel Lee.  That alone gives an extra 6 dB of noise suppression.
LOL ;D

What is a stabilizer? I dont need a sequencer(which Im assuming means its switches things it a certain order), but will the 3500 regulate the voltage in a low or high voltage situation?

Yeah still working on it . I got the shunt breaker and UPS first but needed to save cash for the true conditioners.

 

[pucho812]

the 3500 will  output a square wave, it's a feature they don't tell you about.

 

[Andy Peters]

I was perfectly prepared to buy the Monster 7000 as recommended on this forum to solve a portion of my power issues but then i stumbled on a Pro 3500 at Guitar center for only a fraction of the cost of a 7000. So the question is,
what about the 7000 is worth the extra cash? Do they not do the exact same thing as far far as filtering,surge protection and voltage regulation against sags and high voltage? I could get 3 3500s for the cost of one 7000.

What problem do you think you're trying to solve?

-a

 

[Skiroy]

the 3500 will  output a square wave, it's a feature they don't tell you about.

how does this effect your audio equipment?

 

[pucho812]

the 3500 will  output a square wave, it's a feature they don't tell you about.

how does this effect your audio equipment?

Short answer is it can cause damage to your PSU's, especially switch mode psu's found in converters, computers, etc, etc. Eventually they will fail.

A proper designed power conditioner will output a near perfect to perfect sine wave. That's what you want not a square wave. Plenty of information on the web abbout power conditioning do's and don't.

If you really want a power conditioner, go with furman, they may not not look as pretty as a monster but they will do you well work wise.

 

[Skiroy]

the 3500 will  output a square wave, it's a feature they don't tell you about.

how does this effect your audio equipment?

Short answer is it can cause damage to your PSU's, especially switch mode psu's found in converters, computers, etc, etc. Eventually they will fail.

A proper designed power conditioner will output a near perfect to perfect sine wave. That's what you want not a square wave. Plenty of information on the web abbout power conditioning do's and don't.

If you really want a power conditioner, go with furman, they may not not look as pretty as a monster but they will do you well work wise.

Can you recommend a model that has volatge regulation for high and low voltage?

 

[pucho812]

the 3500 will  output a square wave, it's a feature they don't tell you about.

how does this effect your audio equipment?

Short answer is it can cause damage to your PSU's, especially switch mode psu's found in converters, computers, etc, etc. Eventually they will fail.

A proper designed power conditioner will output a near perfect to perfect sine wave. That's what you want not a square wave. Plenty of information on the web abbout power conditioning do's and don't.

If you really want a power conditioner, go with furman, they may not not look as pretty as a monster but they will do you well work wise.

Can you recommend a model that has volatge regulation for high and low voltage?

do you mean high and low current? 

 

[Skiroy]

No voltage. overvoltages and sags from the power company.

 

[pucho812]

No voltage. overvoltages and sags from the power company.

oh. How much you wish to spend?

 

[Skiroy]

I need at least 3 units. I would like to spend $200-$400 each.

 

[pucho812]

hmmm I don't know, pick any Furman. If you really want to go about it, Might be better off to fix the source and put in an isolation transformer and do clean power vs dirty(street) power

 

[Skiroy]

Been down this road and it seems to keep going in circles. I think I know what to do then a monkey wrench gets thrown like finding our the Monsters produce a square wave. I am a small bedroom hobby studio that will probably be moving in a few years so the permanentness and expensive of you you suggest is not an option. There sure has to be a budget friendly true power conditioner out there that someone can suggest with confidence?

 

[pucho812]

Furmans can be budget friendly and portable, same with equitech. I know a studio that had a 5000.00 equitech system that was portable, portable in the fact you could rack it and move the rack.

 

[Skiroy]

Well I have been through this conversion many times. It seems you often are not getting whats claimed by the product. Thats why Im kind of depending on  you guys,which are way more knowledgable about these things than me, to give me a recommendation on a product that is the most cost effective but is going to do what its says.

For example I thought I was dead set on the Monster 3500 because it seemed to do everything I needed as far as regulating  high or low voltage sags,provide noisefree signal and protect against spikes,but then you told me it outputs a square wave and will eventually damage my equipment. So Im pleading for your expertise to tell me a model that fits the bill because research and reading the product specs provided by the manufacturer obviously doesnt always tell the whole story.

Thankx

 

[buildafriend]

I say just get a furman. easy! You see them in many top notch studios in high end racks.

 

[usekgb]

+1 on Furman.  Great products and good value.  They make everything from really basic power strips to high end balanced power systems.  They also make a unit that locks the output voltage at 117V to prevent voltage overs and unders.

You might also want to check out TrippLite.  They have some very good power regulation products as well.  Stay away from Monster!  They are way overpriced for what they are.

Cheers,
Zach

 

[pucho812]

A little bit of research is your friend. Another vote for furmann.

 

[Skiroy]

Looks like Im back to square one. I have 2 Furmans which I was told were garbage and not real power conditioners.