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scott2000 said:
Man says Jesus Christ is coming back???....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1337893474327203840

That's a singular idiot with no organization to speak of. NOT what I've been referencing. Video was edited. What happened before the altercation? I wouldn't doubt that guy was standing next to people displaying the Confederate flag or the Nazi symbol and cheering in unison just prior to that. I'm not saying the masked person is right. What I am saying is that people on the right are advocating division and violence in an organized fashion and are willing to essentially overthrow our governmental politicians fairly chosen by the people(not that Q-Anon nut, Marjorie Taylor Greene, though), while people on the left are "associated" with protests and broken windows after documentable oppression and murders. Nice singular "whataboutism". Still waiting for real organizations embraced by Democrats f*cking with other politicians for doing their job to be brought up...I could post a picture of Emmitt Till if we'd like to continue the whataboutism game.
 
scott2000 said:
Sure... I can see that....
It's getting pretty bad out there though regardless of the spin...

I just saw this altercation ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuFu9-bfnQk&feature=emb_logo

Your post was honestly very funny and lighthearted. Unfortunately, this is not... and it's not "antifa".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/12/14/michigan-legislative-offices-shut-down-due-to-credible-threats-of-violence-ahead-of-electoral-college-vote/

...and to reiterate: GOP directly asking if their "followers" are ready to die to overturn the election for Trump. This isn't one person in a mask. Definitely not extreme fringe stuff.

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/12/arizona-gop-asks-republicans-are-you-willing-to-die-to-help-donald-trump-overturn-election-results-coup

I could go on. Please do not counter with a singular bad seed. I really want someone to offer up an analogous situation on the left. Yes, it is getting pretty bad out there and things like this perpetuated from the right, all the way up to the top, is why.
 
scott2000 said:
Hopefully someone will be able to help you with that. I'm not sure I understand why the exercise is important though.
Pretty simple.  If you play the "both sides do it" game, then maybe you should have some evidence to back it up.  Sometimes both sides aren't doing it, or there's a significant difference in the number or degree of offenses between the two sides.  When someone provides evidence contradicting your argument, " I'm not sure I understand why the exercise is important though" is a pretty weak response. 

I apologize if this sounds pedantic or condescending, but I'm taking you at your word when you say you're not sure you understand. 
 
For people wondering why papers turned trumpy, here is another clue:

https://www.exposedbycmd.org/2020/12/09/who-funds-the-federalist-finally-we-know/
 
scott2000 said:
Neat... Who would've thought...
I've used U-line before....
He's kinda Like the Bill Gates of  all things office related I guess...

I am extremely familiar with the family and their politics. I often(pre-covid) work in a theater owned by the family. I intentionally haven't purchased any of their products in over 5 years. It's all I can do beyond voting.
 
Republicans, not only do you silently stand with the idiots who condone violence as a political end resolve over and over and over and over... but I guess you stand with the Iranians, also. Stand tall. It would appear that DemocRATs(I did that for all the right-wingers out there)do not as easily succumb to a good old-fashioned conspiracy theory.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-pushed-online-effort-to-incite-violence-against-officials-defending-u-s-election-result-11608693494
 
Just watching the inauguration live. President is sworn in and speaking. Seems pretty much trouble free so far.

Cheers

Ian
 
hodad said:
In the wake of their failure to lick Trump's boots enough, Fox is purging employees with even a sliver of journalistic integrity and throwing itself into becoming a full-time, full-throated propaganda network.  Lessons learned, I suppose.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-launches-purge-to-get-rid-of-real-journalists

Nah... It’s all about the Benjamins and projecting status for feeding ego. There’s plenty willing to go any length for it. This is why I’ve never been successful in business. My fault. I simply don’t have it in me to look at myself in the mirror if I ever did most of what is excepted in business. Some people have no shame.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-democrats-violence/index.html

Stand tall, Republicans... or be complicit in silence. I can't imagine why 1/6/21 occurred.
 
I find this priceless in retrospect... It's like I'm a crystal ball...

Quote from: JohnRoberts on December 06, 2020, 10:30:37 AM
That is rich suggesting that the right is the side advocating violence, while there are fringe elements on both sides that are extreme.

We all have a stake in election integrity.

JR

The Proud Boys and Q-Anon have all been embraced by the president(not extreme fringe element:eek:pposite of, actually). We The People have reached out in a full page ad in The Washington Times to implore Trump to declare martial law(which death is the penalty for breaking) to "take back" the election. I could go on and on... Boogaloo Boys, The 3 Percenters, Patriot Front, etc. Please cite other fringe extreme groups embraced by Democratic governmental leaders. Keep in mind Antifa is an idea, not an organization. There is a huge difference between election integrity and conspiracy theories pushed by a misinformation campaign designed to sow mistrust and division. Once again, please provide evidence of fraud. Trump's lawyers cannot. Republicans have severely harmed the perception of "election integrity"... all because they are poor loser snowflakes who are crying because they didn't get their "gold star". 2016, Trump lost the popular vote by 3.5 million and still became president. No one questioned the integrity of our voting system. 2020, Trump has lost by almost 7 million votes and lost the electoral college by exactly as much as he won by in 2016 in a self-declared "landslide" election. Trump held a "victory rally" last night in Georgia. The world has lost its mind.
 
It has been a long wait but the Durham investigation just dropped his second indictment (Sussmann, with DNC ties, for lying to FBI).

This (lying to govt) is a common process crime gotcha but taking this many years to prosecute him suggests that he may have all his ducks in a row.

enjoy

JR
 
That is rich suggesting that the right is the side advocating violence, while there are fringe elements on both sides that are extreme.

We all have a stake in election integrity.

JR
Funny post, seeing as it was prior to 1/6. Here's election integrity at its finest. Biden got even more votes and now Arizona has to replace their voting machines because....CYBER NINJAS for Election Integrity....HA!!! Maybe Trump will spend millions again, as he did in Wisconsin, to find more votes for Biden.

https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-audit-results-donald-trump-lost-joe-biden-bigger-margin-1632304https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/573798-trump-blames-media-after-arizona-audit-finds-biden-won
And here's the beginning of what may come in the name of "election integrity". Rich, indeed.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/co...tol-riot-subpoenas-bannon-meadows-2021-09-23/https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jan...poenas-trump-aides-advisers/story?id=80199124
 
Not much reaction to the Sussmann indictment? Perhaps people don't recall what this was all about. Talking about election integrity how about a Clinton campaign lawyer approaching the FBI, pretending to be a concerned private citizen, to besmirch his candidate's opposition?

At least Hillary was smarter than Hunter and bleach bitted a couple 10k of her "personal" emails, so it stands to be seen how high up that organization this Durham investigation can reach. These kinds of process crimes (lying to investigators) are often used to get low level people to flip on the big fish. That said people around the Clintons with too much dirt on them have an unfortunate habit of committing suicide.
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It appears that the news is starting to pay attention to some more of Hunter's shenanigans. If they paid attention to his laptop before the last election instead of burying that damaging "news" so deep it still hasn't surfaced, independent voters might have made better informed decisions. Hunter requesting $2M as a success fee for freeing up Libyan assets frozen by the Obama administration while his father was VP doesn't even sound that shocking after his other dramas.

Now that old conspiracy theories are melting away and revealing themselves to be actual news stories, what other shoes will drop next? Who knows, maybe covid came the wuhan lab? :eek:

JR
 
Talking about election integrity how about a Clinton campaign lawyer
The correct spelling is "whatabout".

Is Hunter running for office and someone hasn't told me?

Also, didn't you write this just a few years ago? I wonder what changed since 2018? :D

I find attacking President Trump's family in bad taste, but typical of what passes for modern political mud flinging
 
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