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StarTrucker

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Finally reading the RCA receiving tube manual from the 50s and came across the statement about the benefit of tetrodes being that there is little relationship between plate voltage and plate current. I want to make sure I am understanding plate loads and the creation of signal correctly.

A tube amplifier stage has a set DC voltage on the plate, coming through a load resistor off the B plus line. With no current, both sides of the resistor should show the same voltage. When constant current flows through the tube, a constant voltage drop appears across the resistor because IR=V. By changing plate current, the resistive load of the plate resistor (say 100k) produces a voltage swing to match, which becomes our signal output for the stage.

Now take for instance two differential amplifier stages in a row. If the plate resistor of V1 produces a voltage signal, we can tap that through a capacitor and apply it to a second stage as an input signal. Doesn't the grid leak resistor of the second stage also present a load to the first stage in addition to Rpk? How do the two load resistors interact since they're both loads but not in parallel?

If we connect a capacitor from V1 plate to ground (parallel to a V2 grid leak) I believe that would result in zero voltage swing on V1 plate, but does it also load the tube and drag down B+ as the tube tries to supply more current into an AC short, or does it return us back to the case where there is only Rpk with no current flowing because there is no longer a voltage swing and therefore no plate current?

I've had volume controls change the signal coming off of the plate as you turn them past a certain point, is this dual load why?
 
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Doesn't the grid leak resistor of the second stage also present a load to the first stage in addition to Rpk? How do the two load resistors interact since they're both loads but not in parallel?
There is a DC load line created by the main anode resistor, and an AC load line formed by the two effectively in parallel. You can think of it as the load line rotating around the bias point.
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If we connect a capacitor from V1 plate to ground (parallel to a V2 grid leak) I believe that would result in zero voltage swing on V1 plate, but does it also load the tube and drag down B+
It loads the tube for AC but not DC, so it doesn't affect the B+. Basically the AC load line rotates so it becomes vertical; current swing but no voltage swing.
 
It loads the tube for AC but not DC, so it doesn't affect the B+. Basically the AC load line rotates so it becomes vertical; current swing but no voltage swing.
So the ac load line is created by the V2 grid leak resistor. Input signal affects DC?

How do you load one but not the other? When a signal is applied to the grid the plate current swings as AC across the plate resistor and pulls B+ down.

Could you look at is as the plate resistor creates the AC signal out of DC supply, but only DC is loaded (through the cathode) until connection from the plate to signal ground (gird leak or capacitor) is made to load AC. If the current flowing through the tube affects DC, wouldn't a larger AC load mean more AC current and more DC current being drawn?

If you demand more AC by adding a cap to ground does it not load DC, it just distorts and clips because the tube's current output is fixed and the only way to supply more current is by giving it more input (loading DC line), not by increasing the load?
 
When a signal is applied to the grid the plate current swings as AC across the plate resistor and pulls B+ down.
It pulls the anode voltage down, it doesn't pull the B+ down.
The average DC can't be affected by anything after the coupling cap. Caps block DC!
 
The voltage at the tube anode is AC riding on top of some DC (unless it is so heavily loaded with a cap to ground that it cannot swing the AC part)
 

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