Tuchel connectors for Gefell MV690/691

[AusTex64]

I'm looking for three pieces of 7 pin male threaded Tuchel connectors that will fit Gefell MV690/691 bodies. I've attached some pics of what I'm looking for. Been watching German eBay without success. I got some threaded Binder connectors from AMI but they won't work. :-(

If you have any of these to sell, or know where I could buy them, I would very much appreciate the help.

 

[AusTex64]

Another pic

 

[AusTex64]

another pic

 

[AusTex64]

and the last pic...

 

[ln76d]

Apparently my ebay works differently

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Neumann-Gefell-Kabel-Stecker-Schwanenhals-Konvolut-7-Pol-/262343011702?hash=item3d14dcad76:g:zEIAAOSwr7ZW7YCV

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P48-12-6V-fur-Neumann-Gefell-MV690-MV691-MV692-PM860-PM750-UM705-MV740-/161613664763?hash=item25a0ecd1fb:g:wAEAAOSw~bFWHNLh

http://www.ebay.de/itm/KB1-Stecker-Teile-Buchsen-Neumann-Gefell-Mikrofon-fur-Bastler-Grostuchel-/331758052558?hash=item4d3e5224ce:g:VvIAAOSwCypWnm-p

http://www.ebay.de/itm/NEUMANN-GEFELL-7-pin-cable-Kabel-to-XLR-for-Vintage-Mikrofon-Microphones-/281972199695?hash=item41a6da510f:g:xL4AAOSwxp9W7VA0

 

[ln76d]

BTW those are not "Tuchel" connectors so maybe that's why you couldn't find them.

 

[Sredna]

This connector ist not the same one that is used on the Gefell microphones. The original has a much wider thread than the one on your pics. (Pic of original thread attached)

It seems to be a modification of an Amphenol/Tuchel connector, probably the counterpart of the female connector seen here:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/P48-12-6V-fur-Neumann-Gefell-MV690-MV691-MV692-PM860-PM750-UM705-MV740-/161613664763?hash=item25a0ecd1fb:g:wAEAAOSw~bFWHNLh&clk_rvr_id=1003338267324&rmvSB=true

 

[AusTex64]

Apparently my ebay works differently

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Neumann-Gefell-Kabel-Stecker-Schwanenhals-Konvolut-7-Pol-/262343011702?hash=item3d14dcad76:g:zEIAAOSwr7ZW7YCV

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P48-12-6V-fur-Neumann-Gefell-MV690-MV691-MV692-PM860-PM750-UM705-MV740-/161613664763?hash=item25a0ecd1fb:g:wAEAAOSw~bFWHNLh

http://www.ebay.de/itm/KB1-Stecker-Teile-Buchsen-Neumann-Gefell-Mikrofon-fur-Bastler-Grostuchel-/331758052558?hash=item4d3e5224ce:g:VvIAAOSwCypWnm-p

http://www.ebay.de/itm/NEUMANN-GEFELL-7-pin-cable-Kabel-to-XLR-for-Vintage-Mikrofon-Microphones-/281972199695?hash=item41a6da510f:g:xL4AAOSwxp9W7VA0

Thanks for looking, unfortunately none of these links are the connector in the pictures.

First link is a closed listing. One is for the connector that would attached to an unmodified Gefell M690, not the one that goes on the mic body. One is a Binder to XLR cable, and the other is the stock Gefell connector to XLR. Did you look at the pictures?

 

[AusTex64]

BTW those are not "Tuchel" connectors so maybe that's why you couldn't find them.

If you look at the third pic zoomed in, you'll see "Tuchel" clearly on the connector. That pesky reading thing....

 

[AusTex64]

This connector ist not the same one that is used on the Gefell microphones. The original has a much wider thread than the one on your pics. (Pic of original thread attached)

It seems to be a modification of an Amphenol/Tuchel connector, probably the counterpart of the female connector seen here:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/P48-12-6V-fur-Neumann-Gefell-MV690-MV691-MV692-PM860-PM750-UM705-MV740-/161613664763?hash=item25a0ecd1fb:g:wAEAAOSw~bFWHNLh&clk_rvr_id=1003338267324&rmvSB=true

You are correct that it's not the stock large thread connector typically used on Gefell M690/691. This is a mic that was modified by Oliver Archut. I'm trying to build three more to match. I'm fairly certain he acquired the connector in Germany and modified it for the use here. Determined it is a Tuchel connector by the markings in the third pic above. It's proven very difficult to find. A lot of people get Tuchel and Binder connectors confused because they are so similar. Evidently the threads and plugs are interchangable. That's why I tried the Binder connector AMI uses, but the insert with the pins attaches differently.

If I don't find these,  I could use 7 pin XLR's, or the stock connectors if I must. But the way this connector attaches to the cable is very professional and elegant. It's clear why Oliver went to the trouble to buy these connectors and modify them for this application. Very KM54-ish!

 

[ln76d]

Thanks for looking, unfortunately none of these links are the connector in the pictures.

First link is a closed listing. One is for the connector that would attached to an unmodified Gefell M690, not the one that goes on the mic body. One is a Binder to XLR cable, and the other is the stock Gefell connector to XLR. Did you look at the pictures?

First link still works in my browser.
You asked about connector that will fit Gefell MV690/691 bodies so i looked for original connector. No i didn't looked on the pictures.

If you would wrote in the first post, that it's non original connector i would have less work!

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Grostuchel-Amphenol-7-PIN-female-Neumann-/121934806601?hash=item1c63e17e49:g:FZEAAOSwe7BWy1ch

https://www.studioelectronics.biz/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3635

Is it this one?

 

[AusTex64]

Thanks for trying!

I'm looking for the connector in the pictures I posted, the one that goes on the mic body. Not the connector that goes on the cable. Already have those.

 

[Sredna]

It's very difficult to estimate the exact dimentions and thread width from a picture. so it would help to know which counter connector (the one on the cable) it is.

It shure looks as it would fit with the cable (female) connector on ln76d's last link but to be shure it would be nice if you could
make a photo of your cable connector and, if possible, look for markings like a model number.

On thing about the Tuchel confusion: Tuchel is a brand name (today it's Amphenol/Tuchel) but is often used in a sloppy way when talking about certain (non XLR) connectors in european (mostly german/austrian) microphones.
(Like saying Walkman for a portable cassette player. Yes, Im that old...)

Would you mind sharing the mods that Oliver did to the 690/691 bodies?
I have a couple lying around that I wanted to mod and the connector mod might be a good idea as the old plastic ones are quite, well... plastic!

 

[hazel]

I'm looking for three pieces of 7 pin male threaded Tuchel connectors that will fit Gefell MV690/691 bodies. I've attached some pics of what I'm looking for. Been watching German eBay without success. I got some threaded Binder connectors from AMI but they won't work. :-(

If you have any of these to sell, or know where I could buy them, I would very much appreciate the help.

Ask Peter from http://www.drefahlaudio.com/, he is the man who saved my life a couple of times Knows/has everything about vintage german audio

 

[MS Vienna]

I think Oliver used a male socket like the one in my pic and did quite some machining to fit it onto your mic. That would explain the bare brass surface behind the thread (which is M25x1mm BTW).
I don´t intend to sell my connector - neither know the model number -  but hope this is helpful anyway.

Happy easter everybody!

 

[ln76d]

That's funny, i was thinking about the same

 

[AusTex64]

I think Oliver used a male socket like the one in my pic and did quite some machining to fit it onto your mic. That would explain the bare brass surface behind the thread (which is M25x1mm BTW).
I don´t intend to sell my connector - neither know the model number -  but hope this is helpful anyway.

Happy easter everybody!

I agree with your suggestion. Thanks for those pics, very useful. Would you mind telling me where did you got that connector?

 

[ln76d]

At least two separate auctions are on ebay

 

[MS Vienna]

I agree with your suggestion. Thanks for those pics, very useful. Would you mind telling me where did you got that connector?

Ebay.

 

[AusTex64]

Thanks!