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but, but, BUT da cheapo mikes aren't Hand Carved from Unobtainium & Solid BS by Virgins ??

I think a bigger elephant in the room is the original intent of the iconic mike designers.

Bernhard Weingartner designed CK12, C12, C24 to have flat response especially in Fig8.

'Modern' 414s have a reputation for hyped highs so would NOT have met with his approval. He also admitted that you could probably achieve similar results with a much simpler capsule eg the Debenham et al

My own take on C414 & C12 is 'the voice of the BBC'. When we did a project for them, I was astonished to find they used a 414 voice recording as their final 'golden' test for monitor speakers in an anechoic. I can instantly recognise the rich plummy tones of C414/C12 from years of classic BBC voice.

I don't design mikes to sound like that but C414 is still one of my favourite mikes. Dunno which version

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[QUOTE="ricardo, post: 1111425, member: 45377"] but, but, BUT da cheapo mikes aren't [B][I]Hand Carved from Unobtainium & Solid BS by Virgins[/I][/B] ?? :oops: I think a bigger elephant in the room is the [B][I]original intent of the iconic mike [B][I]designers[/I][/B][/I][/B]. Bernhard Weingartner designed [B][I]CK12, C12[/I][/B], C24 to have [B][I]flat response especially in Fig8[/I][/B]. 'Modern' 414s have a reputation for hyped highs so would NOT have met with his approval. He also admitted that you could probably achieve similar results with a much simpler capsule eg the Debenham et al My own take on C414 & C12 is '[B][I]the voice of the BBC[/I][/B]'. When we did a project for them, I was astonished to find they used a 414 voice recording as their final 'golden' test for monitor speakers in an anechoic. I can instantly recognise the rich plummy tones of C414/C12 from years of classic BBC voice. I don't design mikes to sound like that but C414 is still one of my favourite mikes. Dunno which version :) [/QUOTE]

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