fallout
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Direct your questions to the forum liberals. They seem to love big government.
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AnalogPackrat
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Not a fan of CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. They abuse power and with black budgets and blackmail aren't really answerable to the people via Congressional oversight any longer. Power corrupts. Too much has been ceded to government, especially in the unelected agencies that have been created with little forethought.
What's Ireland doing about it's immigration problems?
AnalogPackrat
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Most of us outside the narrative bubble here in the US want him to be prosecuted for his various crimes and conspiracies. But there are still an awful lot of Americans who think he and his "team" saved us.
Over 80% of asylum seekers arriving in this country last year arrived from the UK via the 'open door; to the north of Ireland ,
its seems that the UK government is allowing people transit its territory without processing , they just allow them in then out the back door ,no questions asked .
This policy on behalf of the UK seems purposefully designed , the implied threat to deport people to Rwanda ,seems like an instrument of fear ,
It also puts the Irish courts in a position where deportation could be problematic , because of the human rights concerns of people who end up subsequently deported to Rwanda .
The crown of England tried as hard as it could for 800 years wipe out the Irish , it didnt work , now their flooding us with migrants instead .
Th UK policy is designed to fuel extremism , which were seeing on an almost daily basis , where centres to house migrants get burned down , politicians are issued with death threats and bomb scares at their home address , etc
Many in the building trade have left Ireland , call center workers arent going to get us out of the housing crisis .
its seems that the UK government is allowing people transit its territory without processing , they just allow them in then out the back door ,no questions asked .
This policy on behalf of the UK seems purposefully designed , the implied threat to deport people to Rwanda ,seems like an instrument of fear ,
It also puts the Irish courts in a position where deportation could be problematic , because of the human rights concerns of people who end up subsequently deported to Rwanda .
The crown of England tried as hard as it could for 800 years wipe out the Irish , it didnt work , now their flooding us with migrants instead .
Th UK policy is designed to fuel extremism , which were seeing on an almost daily basis , where centres to house migrants get burned down , politicians are issued with death threats and bomb scares at their home address , etc
Many in the building trade have left Ireland , call center workers arent going to get us out of the housing crisis .
I would be happy if Fauci was just gone...
WTF is he doing flying around the world with a "state" security team (US marshals)? He was over in Ireland receiving awards/honors, like "Fulbright Ireland Public Service Award 2024 ". He became a fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Ireland in a virtual ceremony in 2021, apparently somebody over there likes him. Maybe he could live over there now?
JR
AnalogPackrat
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Does Ireland have no control of its border? Who voted for the government in power? How much support do these immigration policies garner from regular citizens? Honest questions. I don't follow Irish news/politics*. Seems to me the Irish need to reassert their will before it's too late.
*My father's side is Irish and English. He's passed the genealogy torch to me and I've extended some lines. Our ancestors immigrated to the colonies of Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina in the very early to mid 1700s.
Ireland has a rich and contentious history with England. IRA history is pretty notorious. Ireland joined the EU 50 years ago. Then there's the recent Brexit drama... There is too much history to capsulate in 25 words or less.
Tubetec gives us his highlights reel of current events.
JR
AnalogPackrat
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I'm aware of much of that.
I want to hear the man himself explain what's going on now.
I've read much of it, yes.
We've always had an open border policy with the UK ,
for generations you werent even required to carry ID to cross from one to the other .
Thats basically still the way it is in the North of Ireland , one of the reason for this is the way the border was set up , many small rural towns on the Irish side ended up closer to bigger towns across the border with better access by road , theres also many who live in the republic who work across the border in the north.
Currently the UK threatens Asylum seekers with deportation to Rwanda , but thats very costly and their are the human rights issues involved with sending people to a place where their likely to be tortured .
Its obviously more expeditious to let them in the front door and point them in the direction of Northern Ireland , from there ,they vanish and end up here undocumented .
We were under the rule of the crown of England for around 800 years , that basically ended in 1922 , when Michael Collins was sent to London by Devalera , to sign the treaty with the UK ,
The agreement was that the 6 counties in Irelands north east would remain part of the UK ,
the other 26 counties would be ruled from our own parliment in Dublin . As you can imagine , people in the north of a nationalist persuasion felt very left down there wasnt a 32 county Ireland .
Right after 1922 a civil war started here , not between the people of the north and south , but free state or pro treaty(government forces) vs anti treaty (IRA) .
This led to a division within Ireland where many connected with the anti treaty movement were shown the wrath of the state , in fact even im my days in school around 30 odd years ago , certain kids were picked on brutally by the teachers and head master especially , I didnt understand the reason people who were generally from a more working class backround were treated so badly ,
It was only years later when I reconnected with some of my old school mates I realised what was actually happening .
Irish history is a complicated subject that Im only just scratching the surface of here , I never read much about it ,despite my grandparents having almost every book written on the subject on the shelf ,
Instead I sought out peoples spoken history , and as you know that tells a very different story than the history that was written down in the books by the winners .
I think once the full truth of what Fauci did comes out , there will be no government agency on the planet capable of keeping him safe ,
Ive no idea about Fauci's security detail , but in all likelyhood its already handled by outside contractors , not US agents .
His personal protection must be costing the public millions though .
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Fastnet Rock off Irelands south west coast
for generations you werent even required to carry ID to cross from one to the other .
Thats basically still the way it is in the North of Ireland , one of the reason for this is the way the border was set up , many small rural towns on the Irish side ended up closer to bigger towns across the border with better access by road , theres also many who live in the republic who work across the border in the north.
Currently the UK threatens Asylum seekers with deportation to Rwanda , but thats very costly and their are the human rights issues involved with sending people to a place where their likely to be tortured .
Its obviously more expeditious to let them in the front door and point them in the direction of Northern Ireland , from there ,they vanish and end up here undocumented .
We were under the rule of the crown of England for around 800 years , that basically ended in 1922 , when Michael Collins was sent to London by Devalera , to sign the treaty with the UK ,
The agreement was that the 6 counties in Irelands north east would remain part of the UK ,
the other 26 counties would be ruled from our own parliment in Dublin . As you can imagine , people in the north of a nationalist persuasion felt very left down there wasnt a 32 county Ireland .
Right after 1922 a civil war started here , not between the people of the north and south , but free state or pro treaty(government forces) vs anti treaty (IRA) .
This led to a division within Ireland where many connected with the anti treaty movement were shown the wrath of the state , in fact even im my days in school around 30 odd years ago , certain kids were picked on brutally by the teachers and head master especially , I didnt understand the reason people who were generally from a more working class backround were treated so badly ,
It was only years later when I reconnected with some of my old school mates I realised what was actually happening .
Irish history is a complicated subject that Im only just scratching the surface of here , I never read much about it ,despite my grandparents having almost every book written on the subject on the shelf ,
Instead I sought out peoples spoken history , and as you know that tells a very different story than the history that was written down in the books by the winners .
I think once the full truth of what Fauci did comes out , there will be no government agency on the planet capable of keeping him safe ,
Ive no idea about Fauci's security detail , but in all likelyhood its already handled by outside contractors , not US agents .
His personal protection must be costing the public millions though .
above :
Fastnet Rock off Irelands south west coast
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Dr Fauci is scheduled to testify in public hearings Jun 3. AFAIK he is receiving US tax payer funded security. In 2023 it was transferred to US marshals service.
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Democrats in the house are trying to pass legislation to withhold secret service protection from ex-president Trump if convicted of any of his sundry pending felony cases (they really don't like him).
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RFK Jr is not currently getting secret service protection (they don't like him either).
Since the whole concept of protecting presidential candidates was triggered by the assassination of another Kennedy back in 1963 maybe this next generation Kennedy deserves protection.
JR
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Democrats in the house are trying to pass legislation to withhold secret service protection from ex-president Trump if convicted of any of his sundry pending felony cases (they really don't like him).
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RFK Jr is not currently getting secret service protection (they don't like him either).
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Since the whole concept of protecting presidential candidates was triggered by the assassination of another Kennedy back in 1963 maybe this next generation Kennedy deserves protection.
JR
Not really clear on what the questions are exactly.
This is a nation of laws, not "traditions," amirite?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/...e_code=1.oE0.nLeP.BTwcSAWobBcd&smid=url-share
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/...e_code=1.oE0.nLeP.BTwcSAWobBcd&smid=url-share
Matador
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FDS is real.
fallout
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Idiots were walking around with Fauci socks and shirts. Yes! FDS is real.
I hear you can buy the overstock for practically nothing these days. Stock up!
FDS? Fauci derangement syndrome? I hadn't a clue, fortunately, brother fallout was there to demonstrate it
I don't think Fauci is important. It's much more interesting to see who is the source of the demand is. Fauci is just a civil servant, trying to meander through the maze of power.
For instance, the 5 million $ the University of Texas paid to Wuhan has never been justified or even mentioned. If it wasn't for shoddy bookkeeping in Wuhan, we probably wouldn't know about it. And from the little we know about it, it seems mainly research that is illegal in the USA has been asked from Wuhan. It seems US universities are not really law-abiding citizens...
It also seems Wuhan had only US customers. The same goes for the labs in Ukraine. Apparently, Israel wouldn't risk it.
fallout
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I don't know if 'important' is the right word. A civil servant who was given enough power to enforce government lockdowns destroying small businesses and forcing vaccinations on millions? FDS? Call it whatever you like.
No argument here. I'd certainly like an explanation.
