andow

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1980 on: November 28, 2020, 07:02:44 AM »
I've finally got my DLA-2A put together and I am ready to turn it on. I wasn't able to find a suggested first start up procedure.

I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for start up. Should I start the unit without the tubes first, check voltages, then start up again with tubes installed? Should I put the T4Bs in after I have measure voltages with the tubes in?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Welcome to the forum!  8)

Since this thread is almost 100 pages long by now (edit: it is now! ;-)), most of these basic questions have been asked before. So I really advise you to use the search function before posting. This might help:
https://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=32677.460


Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1981 on: November 28, 2020, 10:40:34 AM »
Thanks for the link andow!

I've checked the voltages on the pins, and then inserted the tubes. Voltages look good here as well.

I attempted to run some audio thru the unit and am experiencing the following strange behavior:

  • Meter: The meter very faintly lights up if I turn on the Gain Reduction Switch. Is this normal?
  • Audio: Audio passes thru the unit when in bypass. This works on both channels.
  • IN - Left: If I turn the gain knob up with the left channel set to the IN position, the Hairball LED meter will flicker at full brightness. This is accompanied by a noisy and unusual hiss, an almost robotic noise. This happens with or without audio.
  • IN - Right: If I turn the gain knob up with the right channel set to the IN position, nothing happens. The meter does not flicker and the gain switch has no impact. Is this the expected behavior, or should the gain switch work at this point?

Here are some things that may or may not be related:

I'm using stepped switches as per the AZONE BOM
I changed the neon lamp to a zener diode as seen in the compiled pdf
I did all my wiring to match what was in the compiled pdf
I have not inserted the T4Bs

TwentyTrees

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1982 on: November 28, 2020, 12:33:53 PM »
AmazingAlf - a shot in the dark, but have you perhaps connected the VU connection points on the PCB to the LED +/- on your VU meter rather than the audio +/-?

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1983 on: November 28, 2020, 01:19:08 PM »
AmazingAlf - a shot in the dark, but have you perhaps connected the VU connection points on the PCB to the LED +/- on your VU meter rather than the audio +/-?

Thanks for the reply. I had the wires coming from the DPDT VU switch attached to the LED +/- as you had suspected. I moved these to the audio connection (the lower set) of the meters. The needle on the VU meter now moves when switched to GR (not to zero as I have not calibrated this). I just searched and found some info from Jarkko and Offthewallstudios which outlines how to power the LED lamp which I will work on now.

Any ideas on what is causing the weird robotic noise (maybe oscillation? I'm not super familiar with what that sounds like) on Channel 1 when I turn up the gain when switched to IN? I made the 25K stepped gain switch in the AZONE BOM. I have attached a 75K resistor to the input of the 25K stepped attenuator. The noise becomes very prevalent when the switch is at 40% or more.

The gain attenuation is having no effect when Channel 2 is set to IN. Channel 2 passes signal in bypass, but not when set to IN.

« Last Edit: November 28, 2020, 04:00:43 PM by amazingalf »

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1984 on: November 28, 2020, 04:49:41 PM »
I've got the VU meter lit up and functioning properly.

I was able to figure out what the problem with the right channel was. The input transformer molex connections were bad. They were the first batch I crimped. I re crimped them all and now signal is passing thru the right channel when switched to IN.

Both channels are now behaving similarly. They each sound very tinny and robotic. Is this something that will be addressed by calibration, or is this a different problem?

I used shielded wire for this build. For the 2 wire headers I used a single wire that was surrounded by a shield. I wired these using shield as black and the wire as red. Could this be introducing problems?

Any guidance is appreciated.

Edit: It looks like I made a very simple mistake in my studio one setup when I was trying this out. I had a stereo track loaded into studio one. I had pipeline xt configured to output 3-4 and input 3-4. The track itself was set to have an input of 3-4. This appears to be the source of my issues. I set the audio track to have no input, and everything started sounding a whole lot better. Maybe that will save someone some time over the course of the next decade!
« Last Edit: November 28, 2020, 08:54:04 PM by amazingalf »

Manucas

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1985 on: December 02, 2020, 05:58:39 PM »
Hello.

Thank you very much all people here, and for sure Volker !!
My unit is now working great, and has a fabulous sound.
No noise, great warm... perfect !!
I'm so happy now to have 2xLA2A for my audios projects.

May be I'll create another one for a friend ;-)
Again thank you for all the perfect informations found here.
Manu

https://imgur.com/a/RuVHJGv

Just removed the T4B for test before the photo, sorry ... ;-)

uptownsquash

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1986 on: December 03, 2020, 03:17:17 AM »
Hello.

Thank you very much all people here, and for sure Volker !!
My unit is now working great, and has a fabulous sound.
No noise, great warm... perfect !!
I'm so happy now to have 2xLA2A for my audios projects.

May be I'll create another one for a friend ;-)
Again thank you for all the perfect informations found here.
Manu

https://imgur.com/a/RuVHJGv

Just removed the T4B for test before the photo, sorry ... ;-)

Hello, im currently almost finished with my current build but was wondering what switch you used for your link/dual selector?

Manucas

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1987 on: December 03, 2020, 04:01:22 AM »
Quote
Hello, im currently almost finished with my current build but was wondering what switch you used for your link/dual selector?

I've used the same switch as for power on/off https://www.mouser.fr/ProductDetail/691-110-73

uptownsquash

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1988 on: December 03, 2020, 04:02:37 AM »

[silent:arts]

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1989 on: December 03, 2020, 07:36:26 AM »
Congrats Manucas. Enjoy!


mangee

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1990 on: December 08, 2020, 08:36:29 AM »
Thanks, volker for great pcb and transformer! My dual la2a works and sounds awesome!




BGroen

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread New
« Reply #1991 on: December 09, 2020, 02:29:57 PM »
Hi guys,

I'm preparing my part list to order everything.
I can find all parts within the EU except the following:

- Solen fast caps
http://www.banzaimusic.com/Solen-Fast-0-1uF-630V.html
https://www.tube-town.net
- VU meters (I can find them on Amazon or banggood, but not sure about the quality_)
https://www.don-audio.com/
- T4B (I know uaudio, drip, kenetek, all USD)
https://www.don-audio.com/
- Input & output transformers
https://www.sowter.co.uk

Does someone know where to find them to avoid big shipping costs? Shipping to NL.

Kind regards,
Beinte
« Last Edit: January 02, 2021, 10:09:05 AM by BGroen »

andow

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1992 on: December 11, 2020, 08:27:13 AM »
Ok, so I got some new meters and everything works fine now, calibration was a breeze too...

When sending some signals through the unit I noticed that when switching to stereo the left channel is compressing much more than the right, even though they're the same when used in mono.
Any idea what's going on here?  ???

BerndVP

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1993 on: December 15, 2020, 02:57:02 PM »
http://www.banzaimusic.com/Solen-Fast-0-1uF-630V.html

Hi guys,

I'm preparing my part list to order everything.
I can find all parts within the EU except the following:

- Solen fast caps
- VU meters (I can find them on Amazon or banggood, but not sure about the quality_)
- T4B (I know uaudio, drip, kenetek, all USD)
- Input & output transformers

Does someone know where to find them to avoid big shipping costs? Shipping to NL.

Kind regards,
Beinte

andow

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1994 on: December 21, 2020, 10:47:56 AM »
Yesterday I finally put the lid on my first D-LA2A! 😎

Thanks to Volker for the nice PCB, this is a really cool project. I used Sifam meters, Kenetek T4Bs and Sowter transformers, which took ages to arrive.
I also replaced the pots with Elma switches and opted for unity gain at 0, which makes more sense to me. The output has switchable 600R termination, which minimizes distortion when followed by a high impedance input. Pretty much all the components of the two channels are matched, so stereo tracking is really good (I didn't even have to adjust the stereo adj. trimmer) and cabling is shielded throughout.

I'll have to put it through its paces but it sounds incredible in a first test!

andow

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1995 on: December 21, 2020, 10:48:35 AM »
inside

[silent:arts]

Re: D-LA2A Support Thread
« Reply #1996 on: December 21, 2020, 11:39:23 AM »
What a clean built beauty. Congrats!


 

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