0dbfs

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2012, 02:03:30 AM »
In for two.... Or so.. :).

When you start the feeler that is.

Sounds awesome!

Cheers,
Jb
Music is everything!
Audio is everything else!



Matador

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2012, 02:38:42 PM »
Very few updates, but I did get my Cinemag CM-2480's in and got a chance to work on the mike bodies.

The CM-2480's are GORGEOUS!  Very nice looking and appear to be very well made.



I did get a chance to shoot a coat of etching primer on all of the brass body parts:





And then a coat of gloss black on the same parts:





The plan is I have some dry-transfer lettering that I'll put on after they are dry to show the name / capsule type as well as a simple graphic for the pad and high-pass switches.  Then I'll shoot on a few coats of satin clear to protect the lettering.

Then hopefully I'll get to solder some parts!


Matador

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2012, 05:36:24 PM »
A few more pics and updates.

The CM-2480 finds its new home within the bell housing (with stock transformer next to it for comparison):





And gets bolted back into the frame:



The two boards after the resistor stuffs.  I had a ton of 1/4W resistors to use up which are slightly larger than the layouts provide.  I believe a 1/8W resistor would fit perfectly.



Notice that R6 (FET drain resistor) is replaced with a 5K pot so I can adjust the bias later.  I set it to 2.21k (regular value) as a starting point.

Boards after the caps and inductors are stuffed:



As I said previously, biggest change is C8 which is changed from a 4.7uF tantalum to a 22uF bipolar electrolytic (large cap next to the bottom edge).

Another shot to show component height:



The body has about 12mm clearance to the PCB so devices that are 12mm or less should fit without issue.

Next up is to install the JFET and PNP devices, then I can move on to wiring the HPF and pad switches and get the circuit boards back in the frame.

abechap024

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2012, 01:36:22 PM »
Looks great! :D I bet they are going to sound great too.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2012, 07:12:35 PM by abechap024 »
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Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2012, 07:41:43 PM »
I did get a chance to shoot a coat of etching primer on all of the brass body parts:

And then a coat of gloss black on the same parts:
Make sure you have a method to electrically connect ALL the body parts (including the mesh) together and to earth.

This may mean scraping the paint and primer off certain locations.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 04:09:53 AM by ricardo »

Matador

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2012, 09:13:43 PM »
Here is the biasing procedure (I finally got some scope shots).

First, you set the adjustable source resistor (R7, or the source resistor that is in parallel with the bypass cap C4) to maximum resistance.  Then, with the capsule disconnected, you inject a test signal into the coupling cap leading to the gate of the JFET).

Here's a shot of the incoming signal (1kHz, 200mV peak-to-peak in this case).  The JFET device is a 2N3819 in this case.



Then you set your scope to AC coupling, and place the scope probe on the drain of the JFET.  You then start increasing the input amplitude until one side of the signal begins to flatten out.  Here's what this looks like (you can see the top of the signal is starting to flatten):



After this, you decrease the value of the source resistor until the signal again looks symmetrical:



You keep repeating this process (increase input amplitude until one side of the signal distorts, then decrease the source resistance until the waveform looks symmetrical), and after three or four iterations, you'll see that the waveform begins to clip evenly on both the top and bottom of the waveform as you increase the input amplitude.  Here's what this looks like:



This means you are done.

Here is the input and output signals:



You can see with a 560mV input signal the circuit swings 3.18V, which is a gain of 6.  The theoretical gain is about 9 so this particular JFET is on the low side of the gain range.  I measured the drain DC voltage and it came out to 9.45V, and the other side of the drain resistor R8 which was 20.3V.  This means the quiescent current draw is roughly (20.3V - 9.45V) / 20K = 0.54mA.  All in all this seems like a good idling point.

To get my input signal, I tried the trick recommended here by using my DAW with a sine wave generator plug-in.  I made a cable with a 1/4" connector on one end, and a set of two alligator clips on the other end soldered directly to the braid and center conductor.  I could then clip the ground side to the mike chassis and the hot signal directly to the top of the 1G resistor.  Very neat and cost 0 dollars!


tchgtr

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2012, 11:43:54 PM »
Very nicely explained.
 Thanks Matador.
Resistance is not futile. It is voltage divided by current.  (thanks, Bill)

canidoit

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2012, 11:53:52 PM »
Is the quality of those cheap mic bodies, as good as the Neumann u87? Is the metal cheaper and thin or the-same? Does it have a cheap feel to it?
iva dunit formerly known as canidoit


Matador

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2012, 12:35:20 AM »
Is the quality of those cheap mic bodies, as good as the Neumann u87? Is the metal cheaper and thin or the-same? Does it have a cheap feel to it?

I've never held a real Neumann, so I can't comment.  The Aurycle bodies however are solid brass and quite thick and heavy.  They certainly don't feel cheap by any means.

In fact I would say the bodies are the highest quality parts of these mikes:  the metal frames seem far cheaper and are just thin stamped metal straps with basic sheet metal screws.  However they are same as pretty much all the other Chinese clones out there.

canidoit

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2012, 02:26:00 AM »
Is the quality of those cheap mic bodies, as good as the Neumann u87? Is the metal cheaper and thin or the-same? Does it have a cheap feel to it?

I've never held a real Neumann, so I can't comment.  The Aurycle bodies however are solid brass and quite thick and heavy.  They certainly don't feel cheap by any means.

In fact I would say the bodies are the highest quality parts of these mikes:  the metal frames seem far cheaper and are just thin stamped metal straps with basic sheet metal screws.  However they are same as pretty much all the other Chinese clones out there.
Would you say the quality of the body is comparable or even better than commercial mic bodies, such as Neumann, Bock, Flea, etc.
iva dunit formerly known as canidoit

david-p

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2012, 02:50:58 PM »
I have built a couple of these Aurycle mike kits and consider them great value for money.  Apart from a shock mount, which you can also get separately from them, they provide in the kit everything you need to make a mic that just plugs into an input and works. The Bodywork is great: any stains on the brass can easily be rubbed off with Brasso.  Even if you intend replacing the capsule and modifying the amplifier, these are a great bargain.  (I am sure it would take me ages to make a headbasket!)

David
www.fugato.com/pickett/
Recording in Stereo and Surround with RME convertors (FF400 & UFX) and Samplitude

diyfanatic

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2012, 03:56:11 AM »
For European,
you can find at musicstore (germany) a Fame mic wich is the same as the aurycle body for something like 40€. or 70€ with shockmount and case.
Cheaper since shipping from US is pretty expensive.

cheers.
Jr.

wthrelfall

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2012, 05:33:54 AM »
For European,
you can find at musicstore (germany) a Fame mic wich is the same as the aurycle body for something like 40€. or 70€ with shockmount and case.
Cheaper since shipping from US is pretty expensive.

cheers.
Jr.

Hi Jr

which model is this?

thanks.

tmuikku

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2012, 05:48:20 AM »
Looks like it is the C010
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/Pro-Audio/Mikrofone-Zubehoer/Fame-Studio-C010-Grossmembranmikro-Niere-Spinne/XLR-Kabel/Koffer/art-REC0001546-000

It doesn't have low cut / polar patter switches though. Great deal nevertheless with the case and all.

EEMO1

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2012, 06:05:30 AM »

 I looked at the co2... more expensive, but the headbasket might be closer to the real thing...

diyfanatic

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2012, 07:58:09 AM »
yep,

In my opinion the C05 and c010 share the same body as the Aurycle:

the C05 doesn' have the LC switch, nor the pad switch but it has shockmount include.
wich for a 42€ mic is a great deal

the C010 does have low cut switch (100Hz), no pad. but at 58€ it comes with shockmount, case and xlr cable. Unbeatable!

the C02 seems to be a different body (even from Aurycle mic), closest to the u87 head basket with LC and pad switch: 100€
it comes with shockmount, case and xlr cable. very attractive but I'm not sure it will make a huge difference of sound with the C010 head basket. but looks less "toy".

Musicstore shipping is 10€

the aurycle have low cut and pad switch and the price is 70$+40$ for europe shipping so it makes the mic at 82€ no shockmount, no case.

Matador

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2012, 11:39:15 AM »
Here's a quick shot of the (nearly) completed mike:



I'm not entirely happy with how the finish turned out:  I found a local guy that does powder coating I'm considering having him sandblast the bodies and powder coating them black....

diyfanatic

Re: Aurycle FET Mikes
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2012, 02:17:28 PM »
nice!


 

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