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The level trimers made me sad  :( I'd like to know the noise performance of this box at different trim levels...

At first glance I thought they made 4 preamps and select after it, maybe with an attenuator to go back to mic level, but they said it's all passive (other than relays, LEDs and P48) so they are applying the trim at mic level with some passive network.

JS
 
Hi again...some live work got in my way but I am back to this now...
This selector is for a proaudio store whose setting up a Microphone Showroom..not for a real recording situation...and now they want to switch between 16 phantom powered mics...(I already made a 8 monitor switch for them and there so happy they asked me to make this selector)
I have been playing arround with Arduino relays and it has a very usefull delay for there system, seems its not that hard to program a microcontroller...although I don't have too much time for experimenting this..

I will make both topologies mentioned here with self etched boards and see whats best hands on....

I am buying stuff for this selector and would like feedback on decoupling cap sizes for schematic on reply 8 of this thread..
22uf 63V is what I have in my head....but I don't really know how I could calculate this..I kinda think smaller size would be ok also...all I know is that it needs to accept 48v and my signal is microphone level.....

all comments are welcome...


 
pablobolche said:
Hi again...some live work got in my way but I am back to this now...
This selector is for a proaudio store whose setting up a Microphone Showroom..not for a real recording situation...and now they want to switch between 16 phantom powered mics...(I already made a 8 monitor switch for them and there so happy they asked me to make this selector)
I have been playing arround with Arduino relays and it has a very usefull delay for there system, seems its not that hard to program a microcontroller...although I don't have too much time for experimenting this..

I will make both topologies mentioned here with self etched boards and see whats best hands on....

I am buying stuff for this selector and would like feedback on decoupling cap sizes for schematic on reply 8 of this thread..
22uf 63V is what I have in my head....but I don't really know how I could calculate this..I kinda think smaller size would be ok also...all I know is that it needs to accept 48v and my signal is microphone level.....

all comments are welcome...
Beware that, if the selected mic pre has input transformers, a capacitor of less than 100uF will create a significant low frequency hump. I learned that at my detriment when I had to fit 220uF/63V caps on a PCB that I had designed for 47uF...
 
  I'd try to avoid adding the caps if possible and still safe... Are you using the transformer? Using the relay and µC as I described you don't need caps, transformers nor extra phantom source. Short pins 2 and 3, switch the old mic out, switch the new mic in, open the short circuit between pin 2 and 3. If the used preamp has good CMRR and the mics connected are DC balanced (I sincerely don't know if there's some mic out there really bad in that aspect, I expect not to) it shouldn't bang that loud. If there is a problem with one of those a transformer and a separate 48V source would help. If it's that bad this isn't enough caps and independent 48V sources.

  The other option is to put a loop for the mic pre, so you can mute the output of the mic pre as well. Switching in and out the 48V for a single mic is usually loud enough that you'd like to mute the channel, you have a µC doing the switching so isn't hard to automate that. That might be the best one, still shorting pins 2 and 3 at the input but together with that (or before) muting the output. It's just one extra relay and there you can do the switching death quiet (other than present signal)

  I'd still try to convince them to switch after a mic preamp, but I'd guess they it might bring them the idea to select between multiple preamps as well so I'd be afraid of asking. Knowing the selection of mics and pres that would be used could give an advantage since you would know your worst case, and you can know what freedoms/compromises you can take safely.

JS
 
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