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opacheco

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Hi,

I am in the restoration process of some very old and vintage Gates Radio equipments and these units have a severals input and output rare transformers with the "AI"and "A O" codes on. I don't have much information about these units and less of these rare transformers.

Do someone here have some information about these transformers ?

Who made these transformers for Gates Radio equipments (UTC made some units for Gates Radio but I am talking about these "AI" and "AO" units!!)?

Any information will be appreciate because this information is very rare!!
Opacheco.
 
Thanks QNote for your disposition to help me!!

I will wait for that data

Opacheco

QNote said:
I may be able to measure the SA-39B transformers' turns ratios in the next couple of weeks.

Qnote
 
I told you this info via PM last week, am starting to think you don't believe me.....  : )

 
Dear emrr!!...absolutely no!!...I have another's  very old Gates equipment (instance to SA-39b) like Studioette 1953 and Studioette 1962 and another's Gates preamps transformers without any indentifer but AI numbers  only print on!!......I am intrigued about thes units because look like the sound of these audio equipment depend seriously of them; that's all.

If anyone have datasheet of technical info of these AI and AO audio transformers, please share it with me here in orden to know more about these gray units.

Thanks a lot for comments
Opacheco.



emrr said:
I told you this info via PM last week, am starting to think you don't believe me.....  : )
 
Some of the Gates catalogs have parts sections with data.  The individual manuals sometimes do as well.  UTC, ADC, Triad, American Magnetics, among others....many wound identical part #s for Gates. 
 
emrr said:
Some of the Gates catalogs have parts sections with data.  The individual manuals sometimes do as well.  UTC, ADC, Triad, American Magnetics, among others....many wound identical part #s for Gates.

That sound interesting!!...but the million of dollar question is where I can find info I out it's spec and datasheet or something like that??

Why this info is very or impossible to get?, was Gate Radio a no records company??

Thanks a lot for comment
Opacheco
 
If you collect the catalogs and manuals, you will acquire most of this information.  It may all be available on one of those scan CD's selling on ebay, I don't know.  I've spend hundreds of dollars collecting original paper at auctions over the years, that's how I know.  It's just information that not many care too much about and thus isn't widely available.  It's time consuming to dig through and interpret. 
 
Yes emrr, this is that I am want to get and searching for!! but that's hard to find!


Thanks
Opacheco
 
emrr said:
I told you this info via PM last week, am starting to think you don't believe me.....  : )
If you've supplied it to him, already, , I certainly don't want to spend the time to measure it.  ;)
 
Dear QNote.....I don't have recived any "measurement data" of anybody at all here!!...
emrr help me with some ideas and experience comments about I could use in my applications and valuables impedances and power data from UTC and similar units, that's all...I appreciate the time taken for emrr sharing your thought and analysis and thanks again for that friend !!...I am requesting this kind of help in this forum because Brian Sowter (Sowter Company Manager) suggest to me to find this measurement in a real transformer bacause he don't have any about these specific transformer (I have more of them with differents AI and AO Gates Codes) and this data is necessary to manufacture a real genuine replica or clone o better than original transformers used for Gates Radio company. I will appreciate your help  in this topic please. I don't want to bother you but let me to know if you are able to help me until please.

I would like to get the Gates Original Datasheet for these kind of transformers because I have some of them inside of  a Gates Studioette 1952 and another one 1963 same model mixer, SA-39B, several mixer preamps with these kind of gray input and output transformers from severals broadcasts audio equipment with any data but with these AI AO codes.

Thanks a lot,
Opacheco

QNote said:
emrr said:
I told you this info via PM last week, am starting to think you don't believe me.....  : )
If you've supplied it to him, already, , I certainly don't want to spend the time to measure it.  ;)
 
opacheco said:
I would like to get the Gates Original Datasheet for these kind of transformers because I have some of them inside of  a Gates Studioette 1952 and another one 1963 same model mixer, SA-39B, several mixer preamps with these kind of gray input and output transformers from severals broadcasts audio equipment with any data but with these AI AO codes.

So if you have all of this equipment, why not learn how to make the measurements yourself?  I'm sure CJ and other members have posted info about how to measure transformer characteristics.  Although CJ might want you to unwind them ;-)
 
mjrippe said:
opacheco said:
I would like to get the Gates Original Datasheet for these kind of transformers because I have some of them inside of  a Gates Studioette 1952 and another one 1963 same model mixer, SA-39B, several mixer preamps with these kind of gray input and output transformers from severals broadcasts audio equipment with any data but with these AI AO codes.

So if you have all of this equipment, why not learn how to make the measurements yourself?  I'm sure CJ and other members have posted info about how to measure transformer characteristics.  Although CJ might want you to unwind them ;-)

Dear,

You offered to me to do the measurement in your unit and will be fine to get in this particular unit (SA-39B) because I got it without any Transformer at all, someone pull out all the transformers out; that is the reason exactly but this post was for "AI" and "AO" Gates Transformers DATA only from the beginning!!: That wasn't a "measurement unit" test request topic. In other way, I can do the measurements for the units that I have but this post wasn't in this way....sorry but look like you are angry; please don't bother to do anything about the measurement in this particular unit (you told that no me). I don't want to argue in this issue forget it please and forgive me if I did any bad comment.

Return to the "topic theme": Anyone have idea?

Thanks and sorry for this inconvenient
Opacheco.


 
opacheco said:
mjrippe said:
opacheco said:
I would like to get the Gates Original Datasheet for these kind of transformers because I have some of them inside of  a Gates Studioette 1952 and another one 1963 same model mixer, SA-39B, several mixer preamps with these kind of gray input and output transformers from severals broadcasts audio equipment with any data but with these AI AO codes.

So if you have all of this equipment, why not learn how to make the measurements yourself?  I'm sure CJ and other members have posted info about how to measure transformer characteristics.  Although CJ might want you to unwind them ;-)

Dear,

You offered to me to do the measurement in your unit and will be fine to get in this particular unit (SA-39B) because I got it without any Transformer at all, someone pull out all the transformers out; that is the reason exactly but this post was for "AI" and "AO" Gates Transformers DATA only from the beginning!!: That wasn't a "measurement unit" test request topic. In other way, I can do the measurements for the units that I have but this post wasn't in this way....sorry but look like you are angry; please don't bother to do anything about the measurement in this particular unit (you told that no me). I don't want to argue in this issue forget it please and forgive me if I did any bad comment.

Return to the "topic theme": Anyone have idea?

Thanks and sorry for this inconvenient
Opacheco.

Oscar,

I am not the one who offered to measure these.  Nowhere in this posting did you say that yours were missing until now, so I thought you could measure them yourself if you learned how.  I'm trying my best to be helpful, and I'm definitely not angry :)

Yours,
Mike
 
Dear,

No problem, forget it!

Thanks


mjrippe said:
opacheco said:
mjrippe said:
opacheco said:
I would like to get the Gates Original Datasheet for these kind of transformers because I have some of them inside of  a Gates Studioette 1952 and another one 1963 same model mixer, SA-39B, several mixer preamps with these kind of gray input and output transformers from severals broadcasts audio equipment with any data but with these AI AO codes.

So if you have all of this equipment, why not learn how to make the measurements yourself?  I'm sure CJ and other members have posted info about how to measure transformer characteristics.  Although CJ might want you to unwind them ;-)

Dear,

You offered to me to do the measurement in your unit and will be fine to get in this particular unit (SA-39B) because I got it without any Transformer at all, someone pull out all the transformers out; that is the reason exactly but this post was for "AI" and "AO" Gates Transformers DATA only from the beginning!!: That wasn't a "measurement unit" test request topic. In other way, I can do the measurements for the units that I have but this post wasn't in this way....sorry but look like you are angry; please don't bother to do anything about the measurement in this particular unit (you told that no me). I don't want to argue in this issue forget it please and forgive me if I did any bad comment.

Return to the "topic theme": Anyone have idea?

Thanks and sorry for this inconvenient
Opacheco.

Oscar,

I am not the one who offered to measure these.  Nowhere in this posting did you say that yours were missing until now, so I thought you could measure them yourself if you learned how.  I'm trying my best to be helpful, and I'm definitely not angry :)

Yours,
Mike
 

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