Wanted E283CC TUBES WTD. NOS preferably?

[paulcheeba]

What Tungsrams do you use @TLRT?

 

[paulcheeba]

I agree though, German Siemens can be really reliable but they don't always sound good in microphones.

 

[Dark1]

From the small photo provided they do look like Siemens E283CC (relabelling within the Siemens concern was a normal practice; later also rebranding, but since E283CC was not produced in the East, this is of no concern, and absolute majority of Siemens-made E283CC were of the frame grid, E88CC-plate-like construction, so practically impossible to fake). But ask the seller to provide photos of the etched production codes to verify.

 

[Dark1]

Also, if the design permits (E283CC can be pushed slightly harder than usual ECC83), changing the wiring of the socket to ECC83 and using special-quality ECC83 variant would be probably still cheaper, plus you can even select better specimen from a larger pool of tubes... And, also ensure you will have spares in the future.

 

[TLRT]

What Tungsrams do you use @TLRT?

Their standard ecc83

 

[paulcheeba]

The DeVinci Code:

 

[paulcheeba]

They all look different though and not like the Siemens which also vary in design shapes. For $300 a pair.

 

[paulcheeba]

So know one thinks keeping this E283CC life going is a good idea? I Have 2 used ones in each module and the Summing amps have EF804s. So as I said before I have tubs of 5751, 12AX7's but may as well use Russian 6N2P variants if we are rewiring, no?

 

[Dark1]

The DeVinci Code:

This looks like a correct Siemens Munich E283CC code to me...

 

[paulcheeba]

Okay thanks!

 

[rock soderstrom]

The DeVinci Code:

Yep, code means E283CC Siemens, produced in Siemens Halske Munich, December 1961

 

[paulcheeba]

Surely they could still be fake though?

 

[C.B. - Boudio]

Not really. These codes are quite hard to remove (as opposed to the white lettering). It would surprise me if someone would really go that far - you never know, of course, but I would be very surprised.

 

[paulcheeba]

Siemens valves are as good as TFK or Mullard or Adzam or Philips or whichever fancy brand you like.

Surely it's a question of taste and the particular tube type? I happen to like good Dutch ones and most TFK's. I have stacks of Siemens that sound thin and not as good as Brimar British Army ones but you may prefer Cryogenic JJ's.

 

[paulcheeba]

Not really. These codes are quite hard to remove (as opposed to the white lettering). It would surprise me if someone would really go that far - you never know, of course, but I would be very surprised.

Yes it would surprise me too but who knows these days, the most obscure things get replicated.

 

[C.B. - Boudio]

Surely it's a question of taste and the particular tube type? I happen to like good Dutch ones and most TFK's. I have stacks of Siemens that sound thin and not as good as Brimar British Army ones but you may prefer Cryogenic JJ's.

Frankly, I don't care at all for valve brands, as long as they're not some Chinese or other knockoffs. My collection of valve equipment is quite limited, as is my budget, so I can't be bothered looking for which brands seem to sound slightly better than others, described in very subjective terms.

 

[paulcheeba]

Frankly, I don't care at all for valve brands, as long as they're not some Chinese or other knockoffs. My collection of valve equipment is quite limited, as is my budget, so I can't be bothered looking for which brands seem to sound slightly better than others, described in very subjective terms.

I find that valves really make a mic sounds good like some voices sound great with vintage TFK, some sound great with British Mullards and some really work with GE or Raytheon etc. I have half of my studio using tube gear in fact 2/3rds is tube but I have some cool solid state stuff for heavy solidity.
Most of my mics are valve ones and I have a lot. Also since I been hanging out here I've been learning a lot more about the tube topologies, I love it. I love details. But that's what comes from producing and writing about 10 albums. It takes a lot of determination and focus. I'm glad I can afford to have a beautiful studio and a wonderful workshop, it's great not having to make music for a living and being able to learn all this crazy stuff as well. I love making microphones and deciding what vintage Vales and capacitors I want to use. I never imagined I'd be doing this in my 50's but I'm not a fan of modern music so I'd rather listen to a tube.