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Anyone have a good link for BC246 A,B and C datasheet(s)? I only found one at www.americanmicrosemi.com and it does not have curves.

Is the BC246(abc) obsolete? is the BF245(abc) the newer replacement?

The 246b is used in one of the transformerless gefells I believe.
 
http://www.gyraf.dk/ the MT71 gefell.

I am looking for the curves and min and max IDSS.
 
aHHHHH but it says 264 not 246! That's very different as Emily Lattela used to say...

Looks like, based on the ECG sub, that it's a process 50 (National) or Process NH (Siliconix) part. Essentially a PN4416: 5-15mA Idss, 4 pF max input C.

Other current parts with Idss bracketing would be the 2N5484, 5485, 5486, in order of increasing Idss.

The website schematic is irritatingly scaled so difficult to view. If you want me to suggest a part out of that series please reduce it to something that readily fits on a page.

The old TI 4416's are the best btw.
 
[quote author="bcarso"] The website schematic is irritatingly scaled so difficult to view. If you want me to suggest a part out of that series please reduce it to something that readily fits on a page.[/quote]

..sorry about that - there seems to be a conflict between using frames for webpages and the auto-resize in most web-browsers.. I'm still trying to find a decent solution..

Jakob E.
 
I gave up on frames and just copied the same stuff onto every page so it almost looks like frames, but every page is seperate.
 
Any good sites to read about the different process numbers, letters?

Is there a good IDSS to VGS to VDS equation for each process type? meaning if one has a fet PN with an IDSS of 2ma will another same PN with an IDSS 2ma have the same VGS at the same VDS?
 
"Any good sites to read about the different process numbers, letters? "

Tough. Someone should scan the ancient NS databook and/or the Siliconix one. They don't provide that info any more that I know of.
 
> Someone should scan the ancient NS databook

Mine would not survive a scanner.

Maybe we should tell Bob Pease. "Give us the curves or we will use SPICE!"
 
found a 1982 ns transistor book in an pile of books I have. It is from 1982

noted the 2n3819 bc264s j305s and 2n4416a are all process 50. There are more numbers listed

The first three are fet numbers in some microphones and the 4416 was posted about above. What special about the TI4416?

Is this like CPUs make the same thing and spec it for a number and case? Some numbers have closer specs like IDSS etc? is a 2n3819 the same die as a bc264 etc?

What does preferred parts mean?

also process 52 listed a number used in a microphone.

also saw the ndf9406 series are they made? look like they might be cool in a fet input preamp design.

bcarso,PRR thanks for the book hint.
 
The TI parts were made using diffusion. Supposedly more recent domestic FETs have used ion implanation, creating defects in the crystal lattice that are thereafter partially healed by annealing (cooking). According to Ed Oxner, formerly with Siliconix, things have never been the same since.

Toshiba parts like the excellent 2SK170 are still made with diffusion I believe. Their starting material may be purer as well. For really low-capacitance applications it would be interesting if they could made a 4416-like part.

Another feature of the TI parts of significance for super low current/charge amplification: the construction had the FET chip sitting on the top of the gate lead, which comes straight up through the borosilicate sealing glass with a minimum volume of surrounding glass. Other vendors from that era sort of stoomped over the lead and embedded it in the glass, hence with a lot more glass around it. This raised the noise from the lossy glass dielectric. I suspect that losses in a mic capsule make this noise source insignificant.

The different FET part numbers for the same process are just gradeouts I believe.

Process 52 is a higher voltage lower transconductance process. I don't see where it would offer an advantage in this app.

Process 94 (such as the NDF9406) is a dual part. Very low leakage and moderately high voltage, but not particularly low voltage noise.

As mentioned in another thread, there will be a larger contribution to noise from a 1Gohm resistor until the leakage current of the FET gets into the tens of pA range. ~50pA Ig if it is straight shot noise; less depending on where a 1/f spectrum starts to show as you go down in frequency.
 
looking at interfets site it seems their nj26 parts have some of the same numbers as the NS P50 parts. The thing is the die size and pattern don't look the same.

Anyone ever use interfet parts?
 

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