Identifying a Transformer

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sonolink

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Hi
I need a little help here:

I got an 18-0-18 @30va BUT it's an old TX and 2 of the secondary cables are discolored. On the TX the secondary windings described are RED-YELLOW and BLACK-WHITE. I can only identify RED and BLACK. The other 2 are discolored. Let's call them D1 and D2.

I connected the TX to mains and read voltages across

Red - Black : 18.8 vac
Red - D1: 21 vac
Red - D2: 0.6 vac
Black - D1: 1.5 vac
Black - D2: 21 vac
D1-D2: 21 vac

Red-D1: continuity
Black-D2: continuity

Am I right to think that the windings are Red-D1 and Black-D2? Shouldn't I get 18 across each? Or that's after rectifying?

Finally, if I join D1 and Black I should get 36 vac across Red and D2 (or across Black and D1 if I join Red and D2), correct?

Thanks for your time and help
Sono
 
sonolink said:
Red-D1: continuity
Black-D2: continuity

Am I right to think that the windings are Red-D1 and Black-D2? Shouldn't I get 18 across each? Or that's after rectifying?

transformers have 15% to 20% higher value tolerance, so 21v for a transformer rated for 18V seems correct

After rectification is 21VAC x 1.414 = 29.69 VDC

If you have continuity between Red-D1 and Black-D2 and you have the right voltages between them 21 VAC it's safe to say those are your secondaries

 
Thanks for your quick reply Whoops :)

So I should be OK wiring them in serial to get 36 vac joining D1 and Black for instance ?

Thanks !
 
sonolink said:
Thanks for your quick reply Whoops :)

So I should be OK wiring them in serial to get 36 vac joining D1 and Black for instance ?

Thanks !

Not 36VAC,
if you wire them in series you will get 42 VAC

Do it, I'm not sure about the polarity though, someone has to chime in on that
 
You're right. 42 vac

I don't think there's polarity being a Transformer (AC). My concern was to properly identify the windings to avoid shorting anything.

Thanks a lot for your help! :)
Cheers
Sono

 
sonolink said:
I don't think there's polarity being a Transformer (AC).
Please read on alternating current:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_current

Audio when captured with a microphone is AC voltage. Dont you have a polarity/phase reverse button on the console input or mic pre or daw?

I guess if you want for example to create positive and negative DC voltages you would need to know the phase of the transformer secondaries.
 
Oh I see what you mean and you're right about the phase problem. I was thinking negative polarity as 0v in DC. My bad :)

Well I think I'll have to wire it to the bipolar PSU and check what DC comes out.

I guess at worse I'll get the wrong polarity and will have to reverse wires right?

Cheers
Sono
 
sonolink said:
Oh I see what you mean and you're right about the phase problem. I was thinking negative polarity as 0v in DC. My bad :)

Well I think I'll have to wire it to the bipolar PSU and check what DC comes out.

I guess at worse I'll get the wrong polarity and will have to reverse wires right?

Cheers
Sono

do you have a schematic of the PSU?
 

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