Only McIrish posting here has built kits from the 4th batch. Others like Corgan and Craigmorris don't have kits from 2021. So we're not going to question the quality of a large batch because of the results of one or two people.
Of course it's possible some people end up with problematic capsules or transformers. Nothing is 100%. The way to resolve those issues is to get in touch with us, like you would with any other product.
But it's also impossible to satisfy everyone and not every negative comment is automatically a manufacturing problem.
Encouraging people to experiment with their builds and try different parts is not being defensive. There's no strategy here, nor do I want one.
Read between the lines: he never built the kits, let alone compare them or build an adapter.
If you disagree, feel free to explain how you build kits without PCB's:
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Overtly ******* tone is a better description.
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Thanks for saving me hundreds of euro's because your mic sounds horrible" ???
... and you want me to be polite and considerate?
Bad assumptions. We don't sell anywhere near enough kits to live from this, and as demonstrated above, some of these people are trying to influence opinions.
Otherwise this kit has no marketing. Only user reports from members of this forum.
No microphone expert would say all that. You're confusing two different things:
1. The capsule decides what quality
CAN be achieved.
2. The circuit, tube, transformer, power-supply etc decide what quality
IS achieved.
Everything enters the mic through the capsule, which makes it the only part along with the headbasket that can set the maximum attainable quality and resolution of a microphone. Everything else behind it has to work with what the capsule provides.
But what is your pre-amp connected to, the capsule or the transformer?
Commercial microphones aren't designed around fixed circuits either. Circuits are a toolbox, designed to fit and control the parts around them. You can adjust and change circuits. You can add and remove parts, add EQ filters, adjust sensitivity, add pattern controls etc. Looking at a circuit as this immutable and useless object is a complete waste of opportunity.
And no, your Neumann K87 capsule in a cheap Chinese mic won't sound like a good mic. It'll be unbalanced and probably unusable. But the proper U87 circuit and transformer with a cheap K67 will sound like a U87. Won't be a great one, but it will have the right character.
Neumann is in the thread title to credit them as the source. We didn't create the KM84 circuit. We can change it to something else, it's not important.
Being vulnerable to criticism isn't a problem either. Critique from people who build the kits is welcome and that's how all products are improved. But we could do without the "input" from people who have no intention of building this kit, in a build thread...
Stated the circuit can be used to
adjust the frequency response, and each transformer type
affects the frequency response of the mic differently. Both statements are true.
If they have no effect on sound, then why bother building a KM84 circuit? Why not just build a generic flat circuit with a flat capsule?
Or every time you don't like something in a mic, you're just going to endlessly swap capsules until it sounds right? How much money are you made of?!
No returns. It's a DIY kit.
Not liking the sound of your build, or kit not matching expectations is not a bad capsule problem.
Problems with sound where your 1st capsule is wildly different from your 2nd is a bad capsule problem. Both your capsules showing problems and being unusable is a bad capsule problem (that includes anything from not working to having poor frequency response)
Then you might as well buy from Stam instead of building anything on this site. For most people DIY is about the process. It's about making something yourself. Not everything is about money.
(can we please leave this thread for those who are building the kit? Anyone who wants to discuss the validity of this project or marketing strategies, take it to the white-market thread)