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z15

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I guess I got to start somewhere now that I've figured a few little basic things out...

I just recently got a little old Finnish modular mixer-amp that was apparently used as a central announcement / speaker control system at a school. Lots of the modules had already been ripped out by someone else, but a two mic-stage card and one card with phono + line stages were still left (and a pushbutton board or two with the wackiest buttons ever, I HAVE to use them somewhere).

Aside seemingly uninspiring ye olde Fairchild dual opamps (uA739PC), every channel had a transformer in it. Three of the four trafos are Beyer 351 010 005 which I identified with the scanned Beyer catalog to be single primary, 1:10 winding. However, I didn't manage to find the right datasheet anywhere, I looked at http://audio.kubarth.com/rundfunk/ ... is it there at all?

I would guess the trafos would be good in mic pre designs at least. Any specific suggestions or other ideas? I'm really a beginner so I don't have any good ideas where to use them yet, but I'm still going to salvage them for future use. Seems like some people ordered a few of them in the Beyer groupbuy, what are you guys going to use them in?

The fourth transformer (in the line channel) is very similar form factor but just has a yellow tape around it that says "SMm 9039". does this say anything to anyone? a bit of googling didn't get me anywhere.

Oh, yet another newbie question: do trafos break or wear down easily? I guess the boards have been used quite a lot at the school but probably not abused heavily (who knows...). Would it be safe to assume that the Beyers still work? Anything particular I should check there?
 
[quote author="z15"]I looked at http://audio.kubarth.com/rundfunk/ ... is it there at all?[/quote]

Yes, do a Find for "BEYER-DYNAMICS KATALOG"

[quote author="z15"]I would guess the trafos would be good in mic pre designs at least. Any specific suggestions or other ideas? I'm really a beginner so I don't have any good ideas where to use them yet, but I'm still going to salvage them for future use. Seems like some people ordered a few of them in the Beyer groupbuy, what are you guys going to use them in?[/quote]

Just about any tube grid or JFET gate. Popular ones include NewYorkDave One-Bottle or JLM Baby Animal. See META for many, many more.

[quote author="z15"]Oh, yet another newbie question: do trafos break or wear down easily? I guess the boards have been used quite a lot at the school but probably not abused heavily (who knows...). Would it be safe to assume that the Beyers still work? Anything particular I should check there?[/quote]

No, transformers don't break easily, one of the things I love about them. Check the DC resistance of the windings to find out if any are open. Search the forum for "Transformer Testing."

Good luck!
 
Thanks a lot guys! I actually had downloaded the catalog before but completely missed the fact that it had all the neccessary specs for those.

[quote author="skipwave"]Just about any tube grid or JFET gate. Popular ones include NewYorkDave One-Bottle or JLM Baby Animal. See META for many, many more.[/quote]

Nice that you mention those, my first ever build I finished a week or two ago was a BA... at the moment I'm too enamoured to rip off the JLM14 and try a Beyer there instead. :wink:

I think someone mentioned me the NYD One-Bottle design before, I browsed through the thread and eyeballed the schems a bit today. I love the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) factor of it, so I'll probably try building one at some point, when I get courageous enough to start trying out P2P and tube electronics. Meanwhile, I guess I'll just desolder and test the trafos and put them into a safe place, mwahaha!

[quote author="skipwave"]No, transformers don't break easily, one of the things I love about them. Check the DC resistance of the windings to find out if any are open. Search the forum for "Transformer Testing."[/quote]

Indeed, I found some very good instructions via transformer meta. Thanks again!
 
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