oscilloscope uses?

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buschfsu

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So from what i can gather these are good for finding distortion (clipping) in circuits and tracing AC through stages.

anything else? wondering if it would be beneficial to get one.

i have a dvm by the way.
 
[quote author="buschfsu"]i have a dvm by the way.[/quote]

You have a department of motor vehicles? DMM = digital multimeter

Oscilloscopes have endless uses and yes, you will find it quite useful
 
[quote author="Ptownkid"][quote author="buschfsu"]i have a dvm by the way.[/quote]

You have a department of motor vehicles? DMM = digital multimeter[/quote]

Erm...

Dude...

How do YOU spell "DMV"? Hopefully not "DVM"! :wink:

By the way, DVM = Digital Volt meter and is an accepted abbreviation as far as I'm concerned!
 
[quote author="SSLtech"][quote author="Ptownkid"][quote author="buschfsu"]i have a dvm by the way.[/quote]

You have a department of motor vehicles? DMM = digital multimeter[/quote]

Erm...

Dude...

How do YOU spell "DMV"? Hopefully not "DVM"! :wink:

By the way, DVM = Digital Volt meter and is an accepted abbreviation as far as I'm concerned![/quote]

Wow, I am decidedly off my game

carry on
 
[quote author="Ptownkid"]wow, you have a department of vehicles motor? :wink:[/quote]

Duh, he's got a doctor of veterinary medicine.
 
thanks guys. seems like most books i read are about TVs and triggering and **** that doesn't seem to apply to my diy audio circuits. maybe a book you recommend.

oscilloscopes for audio dummies?
 
oscopes are for dummies! :razz:

get a cheap one, open up something safe (not a tv or tube amp), and touch the probe around. dial the knobs so that you can see a line of some sort. enlightenment will come! its a beautiful thing! you'll be hooked.

when youre learning, its good to probe something that works. a cd player has all kinds of cool signals. after a while you'll notice that machine B has a different signal in this part of the circuit or no signal than machine A (which works fine), and youre on your way to your first repair!!!
 
Let me try to condense this properly.
2 knobs to worry about on scope.
1. How tall the trace will be (vertical gain)
2. How fast the dot is travelling across the screen (horizontal sweep rate).

Now, with probe in hand, we take, for instance, a single stage common emitter circuit. We take our oscillator and feed a 1khz sine wave into the input connector.

Now we place our probe on the base of the transistor. We see a sine wave on the scope. We adjust the vertical gain to make the wave the correct height to view. We set the horizontal sweep rate to get the waveform to become, say, a single sine wave pattern.

Now, we make a mental note of how much electrical signal the sine wave is making, by looking at the scope's input setting.

We move the probe to the collector of the same circuit, and if the stage is working correctly, we should see the same waveform, except much taller.
We make a note of this scope setting also. By using the divisions on the scope screen, combined with the input switch settings, we can look at the trace and tell what the signal level is.

If the collector is not giving a taller signal, or is showing a sine wave with distortion or other imperfections, then your circuit be broke.

Good thing you have a scope, eh?
 
"But what about the trigger control, Larry?"

yeah yeah..I was gonna get to that.

Like the vertical sync circuit in a TV locks in on the sync pulse to prevent the screen from rolling, a scope trigger circuit locks the horizontal to the incoming waveform to make it appear stationary on the scope tube.

When trying to lock the horizontal sweep time to a particular waveform frequency, it is damn near impossible to get the trace to stand still without a trigger circuit on a scope. It can be set to ignore high or low freqs, use dc or ac coupling, and a few other tricks to isolate the signal you want from the ones you don't.
 
Here's another use:

I use my scope in X-Y mode for tape machine azimuth calibration all the time... much better than the VU method.

The ellipse is sooooo cool looking :green: .
 
The ellipse is cool but it has nothing on this:

DSC01697b.jpg


It's an NTSC composite video signal of SMPTE color bars. The scope is a Tek 2246A.

I have found a scope to be especially useful for observing distortion, oscillation and ringing in audio circuits.

EDIT: sorry about the size of the pic. I uploaded the wrong one.
 
Usually more like (at first at least):
[quote author="Larrchild"]Now, with probe in hand, we take, for instance, a single stage common emitter circuit. We take our oscillator and feed a 1khz sine wave into the input connector.[/quote]
Except you accidentally have the gain set too high and totally distort your first stage...
Now we place our probe on the base of the transistor. We see a sine wave on the scope. We adjust the vertical gain to make the wave the correct height to view. We set the horizontal sweep rate to get the waveform to become, say, a single sine wave pattern.
Meanwile your clipon aligator clips have jumped off your thing you're testing and is resting on B+
Now, we make a mental note of how much electrical signal the sine wave is making, by looking at the scope's input setting.

We move the probe to the collector of the same circuit, and if the stage is working correctly, we should see the same waveform, except much taller.
We make a note of this scope setting also. By using the divisions on the scope screen, combined with the input switch settings, we can look at the trace and tell what the signal level is.
Then we accidentally touch the collector and emitter together and fry yet another innocent transistor before realizing that the whole problem was that the power tube was just bad. :green:
Good thing you have a scope, eh?
 
[quote author="Larrchild"]and appears under-terminated.

Ringin like a telephone.[/quote]

Yep. You got it. I just wanted to see what it looked like on real scope as compared to on-screen in Vegas. I don't have a T or a terminator so I just plugged straight in.
 
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