Plate reverb idea..

[gyraf]

An idea:

For plate reverb, you want a plate with a good "sizzle"

Much like what you want in cymbals, perhaps?

Why not use a brass plate, hammered-hardened like we do cymbals....

Or - if possible - trying hammer-hardenening a steel plate?

Comments?

Jakob E.

 

[NewYorkDave]

Easy experiment: attach a couple of transducers to a big cymbal, mounted on a regular cymbal stand. Why not? It could be a useful sound.

 

[burdij]

The original plate reverbs (the EMT variety) used a plate of cold rolled steel 1M x 2M and 1/64 inch thick. This apparently gave an RT-60 of 5 seconds at 500Hz. Stainless has been used but is not favored because it give a "metallic" sound to the reverb tail. The plate is held under a very high tension. Brass in this thickness would probably not be strong enough. The tuning of the plate needs to be very even on all support points.

A damping plate was also used. This is a piece of plywood with a sound absorbing material positioned near, but not in contact with the plate. A mechanism is used to move the damper closer or further from the plate.

 

[redear]

[quote author="NewYorkDave"]Easy experiment: attach a couple of transducers to a big cymbal, mounted on a regular cymbal stand. Why not? It could be a useful sound.[/quote]

Indeed, I think I will try this.

 

[pucho812]

[quote author="NewYorkDave"]Easy experiment: attach a couple of transducers to a big cymbal, mounted on a regular cymbal stand. Why not? It could be a useful sound.[/quote]

that is an interesting Idea that I have to try...

 

[SonsOfThunder]

Ooo...what about a metal wastebasket for a funky reverb?

Driver on the round bottom, mic inside...
Or perhaps a galvanised trash can?

Gotta make a trip to the hardware store! That would look funny if you had one of these lined up next to your EMT, now wouldn't it?

Peace!

 

[NewYorkDave]

Hey, why not? Let's recapture some of the fun that went away when we all got too "pro" for our own good :wink:

 

[SonsOfThunder]

But...
I was planning to use a can made by an ISO certified manufacturer... :thumb:

 

[Guest]

I prefer this one:

http://www.tank-fx.de/

 

[chrissugar]

Some interesting ideas here. :grin:


The tank-fx reminds me that before I moved to the capital, I lived in a city where there were two, big (80 meters high), abandoned water towers, and we (me and a friend of mine) went there from time to time.
We were doing climbing inside the tower ( you know, rappel devices, cord, harness, etc) .
We were so fascinated because you had a fantastic view from the top over the whole city, and if you hit the big metal water tank the reverb sounded for more than half a minute. :shock:
I would really like to hear again that sound.

chrissugar

 

[gyraf]

More idea..:

In stead of having a damping plate parallel to the reverb plate to control decay time (which will only influence midrange and top anyway, the bottom reverb time stays the same) - what about keeping the plate in an airtight tank and evacuating it gradually with a vacuum pump.

That way you'd be able to really control damping :razz:

Jakob E.

 

[mcfarlane_audio]

for those of you on that "garbage can topic" ill try to find out what issue once i get back to my collection, but in one of the tape op issues there was a section about unconventional reverbs you could make at a home studio, Garbage can was one, headphones, half in half out of a metal cookie tin was another, using heater ducting (with furnace off of course) using an upright piano, (putting a speaker near the strings on the bottom, and a mic near the strings at the top( with the dampers off of course), i think thats about it, just thought id throw in my 2c , oh, and also, about using the cymbal, i thnk this was discussed partly before, about the idea of using a round plate, and the decision was reached that it would have a resonant frequency (something that is partially avoided in rectangular plates of large size, so, think about that, i agree that it could be a very cool effect, it might be horrible, there is only one way to find out :grin:

 

[pucho812]

[quote author="Wavebourn"]I prefer this one:

http://www.tank-fx.de/[/quote]

time to upload some sweeps

 

[Guest]

That Germans take files up to 60 seconds to process.

 

[dale116dot7]

http://www.silophone.net/

20 seconds of reverb time?

 

[pucho812]

[quote author="Wavebourn"]That Germans take files up to 60 seconds to process.[/quote]

a starter pistol or a 60 sec frequency sweep and I can makes me an altiverb sample... :thumb:

then I will have that phill spector snare sound :razz: